We successfully changed the spelling of our house name in the County
Council and Postcode databases 13 years ago. Yet the same council's
refuse department still uses the old spelling in their address database.
And, yes, I have told them once or twice.
We had a similar single main street through the village terminating at
the river. There was nothing to state the name of the street, some
called it Church Lane, others Main Street, others said it was one for
part and the other for the rest. Our Parish Meeting (lower than a
Parish Council) approached the Borough Council and a fixed name was
agreed and a street sign erected.
On the above street the top end and the bottom end had, and still
have, the same postcode. Our block of cottages were designated as
one, incorrect, code, which not only made a mess with satnavs but also
every time a credit search was needed. That's was sorted by the Post
Office (I think) though it may have been in conjunction with the
Coincidentally I used to get mailings intended for Boots for some
strange reason. I used to forward them on but gave up.
I had this happen with two houses that I lived in. The first was an existing
house, built maybe 5 years before I bought it. The postcode digit in the
second part changed some time during the 1990s from 3 to 0. The Royal Mail
were no help at all: their attitude was "your postcode has changed - if any
letters are addressed to the old postcode they will not be delivered". I
imagine many people's postcodes were affected in the same way - a change of
digit but the letters remained the same: xx12 3yy went to xx12 0yy.
Then the same thing happened in my second house - one of a brand new
development. All the houses had the same code and the digit changed from 5
to 4. I'm not sure whether the builder had been given the wrong information
or whether the Royal Mail had allocated a code in the wrong area.
In both cases, the old postcode was never reused so it would have been easy
enough for the Royal Mail to have set up an automatic redirection to give
people chance to wrote to all the many companies to get the postcode changed
on their database.
We had this problem. I discussed it with neighbours and amazingly they
didn't want numbers because it was 'common'. Nevertheless I got onto the
council and they came out and allocated numbers, and wrote to everyone
telling them what their number was. My name was mud then on our street.
Thirty five years later some people still refuse to display the number,
so I get pizza delivery boys knocking on my door at ridiculous hours
asking for directions. I don't usually know where the named houses are
so I can rarely help. It's quite interesting though. They only get a
quid for each delivery and they have to pay for their own transport.
Me too. Our house has no number, just a name, because it was built
years after the road was numbered, as were three other houses that are
our my immediate neighbours. This is in a university town so we too,
get attempted pizza delivery, usually at the beginning of the academic
I used to ask if it was a vegetarian pizza and when the almost
inevitable reply of 'no' came I said it can't be for me then and shut
I do PC support for customers in the local towns and villages, so I have to
find a lot of houses. Anyone who's got a house name makes it a lot harder to
locate: a postcode gets you close but not right to the house, and unlike
numbers you can't infer where a house is if you find a neighbouring house.
Luckily someone has produced a web site of maps for the villages round here
which shows every house, annotated with a reference number in a list of
alphabetic house names and street names. Without that, I'd be lost.
It isn't helped by Google Streetview's policy of blurring text on their
photos. There may be good reasons for doing it, but it's a shame that they
don't make an exception for people's house numbers on their front door or
gate. I always look up a house on Streetview to see where I'll be going, and
in some cases it's difficult to find two houses with visible numbers to work
out which way the numbering goes.
What is even more odd is the number of people who don't have any number or
name displayed on their house or on the gate. How they expect the emergency
services to find them in a hurry is anyone's guess. I wonder if emergency
services have access to a map which shows every house by name/number - an
official version of the unofficial maps that I've used for villages near me.
On Tuesday, 21 November 2017 12:57:40 UTC, NY wrote:
The Ordnance Survey should have everything. When I moved here, umpteen yea
rs ago, the father (he and/or his brother worked for the OS) gave me A4 cop
ies of this part of the local 1:2500 maps, and they include all that should
be needed for this outer London area. Presumably the Emergency Services h
ave that or better,
The same is shown, larger, when one uses the Council service to report some
thing like a broken bollard.
I have yet to discover a way of directly getting that map electronically (w
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The 1:2500 (approx 25 inch/mile) maps don't show and name/number every
single house, especially in a terrace, but they are almost good enough.
http://maps.nls.uk/view/125637283#zoom=6&lat158&lon 847&layers=BT is a
1941 25-inch map.
Some councils have maps that number/name most buildings - or at least they
number the beginning and end of a sequence of houses where it is obvious
what the intervening numbers are.
https://arcg.is/fKiaD (a link to
is an example for the same area of York, zoomed in to maximum level of
On Tuesday, 21 November 2017 17:04:20 UTC, email@example.com wrote:
ears ago, the father (he and/or his brother worked for the OS) gave me A4 c
opies of this part of the local 1:2500 maps, and they include all that shou
ld be needed for this outer London area. Presumably the Emergency Services
have that or better,
You may find the information you want is already there. If not, you can add
Open Street Map is created by anybody who wishes to contribute and, of cour
se, it is free. The level of information available at any given location is
entirely dependent on the contributors. I've added a few corrections and a
dditions over the years, so it can't be THAT difficult!
Go to the local council planning dept website. Not all councils use the
same system but most have a location map display for planning
applications etc. If you zoom in you can usually get a display of
'property point' data including names or numbers
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 09:50:30 +0000, Bob Minchin wrote:
Start with the Highways department of your local council ?
We wanted to give our house a name which would appear on the PAF
database. The PAF database is compiled from local authority submissions,
and the process is the same as naming a road - the same forms etc.
It's as opaque as you can get (even the council didn't know at first)
plus there's a fee of hundreds of pounds.
In the end we saved the money, and just started using the name for every
online order, and correspondence address. I have now noticed that it's
"fed back" into the system and almost all databases have picked it up ....
I think it seems that the post office has the power to add numbers if they
It was done in a local close not that long ago as all the houses were named
after types of tree. Ashcroft villas etc.
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No it is definitely local council and the PO are at their mercy or you
wouldn't have the Bolton/Manchester Road house numbering conundrum:
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