OT: Re-enabling Internet Explorer

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MS has a reputation of intentionally killing off perfectly good platforms that still have their purpose. The two greatest things they destroyed for me were MSN Messenger and Nokia. At least IE hasn't been destroyed, yet!

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I have as little to do with MS as possible. In normal home usage, it's limited to Office 2016, in fact. Nothing else.

Am 22/02/2023 um 12:25 schrieb Fredxx:

What plugin is this? I haven't touched Bill Gates' rubbish for a while but I was once able to use old IE using Wine on Linux. However Wine is more like Windows XP than Windows 10 or 11.

they are always tring to get me to use edge ... very intrusive they are

I run 11 without the plug in...stuff them

At a first guess a Swann CCTV active-X plugin?

They had added an IE compatibility mode to edge that seems to work with most IE specific things including ActiveX controls etc. Once you get redirected you can then select it from a menu, and tell it to remember for next time. The site then acquires an IE icon on the edge address bar a bit to the left of the URL.

It seems to work for the IE specific pages I have tried so far.

Many CCTV recorders require the ActiveX plug in.

IE 11 was the last to support ActiveX plugins

Edge does not support ActiveX plugins at all

ActiveX is now deprecated due to the many security vulnerabilities.

I have the same problem as you, and I downloaded and installed Samsung Smartviewer for my Samsung DVR to get round this and iPolis for my mobile phones and tablets

Perhaps your DVR has a similar suite of software?

If not, you could run Windows 7 and IE explorer in a virtual machine?

Otherwise you could update the firmware in the DVR if one exists that does not rely pm ActiveX?

otherwise its a new DVR time.

ActiveX

So anything requiring an ActiveX plug in a browser is now in difficulty....

that did not work for me in IE compatibility mode simply because Edge won't download the ActiveX plugin as its not supported

IME It will once in IE mode - you need to re-open the page in IE mode first, then ActiveX etc will load.

(I have a client that uses one CRM system that is very tied to IE (and needs a whole bunch of security settings changed to even run on real IE. Even that will work in Edge IE mode)

Yes it does...

To be fair even real IE will block AxtiveX by default now - you need to chage the security options in it (preferably only for trusted domains).

Indeed - but if you are running something within your org that requires it and the alternative would be binning several £100K worth of development effort, then you mitigate the risks and carry on!

Yup that also works

Lots of kit of that type seems to rarely get updated alas.

and IIRC correctly, IE mode in Edge is being withdrawn.....?

Yes I wondered about that when I heard Microsoft were disabling the code. At least they did not wipe it entirely as they originally said. There are some third party .net programs that use routines from IE, and I'd suspect these would coast to work. Brian

They killed off Outlook Express, though I have a hacked version. OK we all know it had its problems, but surely they should have made a new client along the same lines for Windows10 etc, since the interface is logical, and it has newsgroups, which Outlook and Windows mail does not. I'm told that you can still bodge it to work under 10 and 11, but every time an update comes it gets disabled again. Unfortunately the third party OE classic has accessibility problems. It may well look the same but if the API is bust, then we can't use it. Even Third needs extensions and add ons to make it work Brian

Tad out of touch. I thought IE had been discontinued and now everyone gets Edge instead.

Isn't Active-X the most insecure piece of software ever?