OT ... PC upgrade

GPL section 4:

"4. Conveying Verbatim Copies.

You may convey verbatim copies of the Program's source code as you receive it, in any medium, provided that you conspicuously and appropriately publish on each copy an appropriate copyright notice; keep intact all notices stating that this License and any non-permissive terms added in accord with section 7 apply to the code; keep intact all notices of the absence of any warranty; and give all recipients a copy of this License along with the Program.

You may charge any price or no price for each copy that you convey, and you may offer support or warranty protection for a fee."

Wrong again, dennis. But I'm sure you will wriggle again.

Reply to
Bob Eager
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Truss you.

Reply to
Grimly Curmudgeon

Perhaps you could quote the part of the GPL that you think gives you the right to do this?

Reply to
Steve Firth

"Rick Hughes" wrote: [snip]

No, that's absolute bollocks. The Apple II with a CP/M card was the darling of bean counters because it would run Visicalc. When Jobs released the Lisa the bean counters fell out with Apple. The Lisa was too expensive, didn't run CP/M, and it didn't have Visicalc. IBM offered a computer running something that looked a lot like CP/M, it had Visicalc and later Lotus 123. It was cheaper than the Lisa and no one knew what Microsoft was or cared. The OS was just something given away with computers.

The Mac was Lisa-lite, but it was more powerful and better specced than PCs of the day. The corporate suits saw it as a silly little machine that looked to them like a games machine. Besides which no one got fired for buying IBM. Sp the suits would continue to spec and buy PCs.

There were no PC clones to port MacOS to, the PC was too slow to run a GUI, it had crappy graphics with rectangular pixels and it was limited to 640K of RAM. Not only that but MacOS relied on a unique feature of the 68000 series processors for speed (exception trapping) and it needed the Mac ROM to function at all. Also MacOS was big endian and the PC was little endian.

It was never going to get ported to the PC.

Microsoft got big by shafting their client IBM and in the process helped to kill IBM as a maker of desktop computers.

Funny that people are blinded by what they assume other people think of him to the point that they fail to see what he did achieve.

Reply to
Steve Firth

I said that (not verbatim ).

OK so you sell it for £20 and I give it away free. How many are you going to sell? Now prove I was wrong or wriggle yourself.

Reply to
dennis

See bobs post, he got the bit he quoted right.

Reply to
dennis

Then learn how to set it to UK English you damned Yankee pipsqueak.

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Tim Streater

Reply to
dennis

In English (as opposed to Merkin) 'licence' is the noun but 'license' is the verb. Users of real English thus have to think about usage as well as spelling.

Reply to
Roger Chapman

It's not a problem with the spell checker.

Collins GEM English Dictionary licence n. document giving official permission to do something; formal permission; excessive liberty; disregard of conventions for effect, e.g. poetic licence. ?license v. grant a licence to. ?licensed adj. ?licensee n. holder of a licence, esp. to sell alcohol.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

No only really really stupid people do that, Dennis.

Clever people have either decide they dont want it or they do want it, first.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Well indeed. And so they should too.

Reply to
Tim Streater

Then pay attention to it.

Reply to
Tim Streater

september.org...

Which is more than you did, even if you won't admit it.

Reply to
Bob Eager

"dennis@home" :

It's the wrong spelling in that context but a simple spell-checker can't know that.

"The company licenses software to its customers."

Reply to
Mike Barnes

You're thinking of UEFI (whatever that means) which is an industry initiative to prevent malware and root kits. The idea is that the PC BIOS will only boot an OS which presents a valid crypto key (similar to how SSL sites work).

The current debate is about who approves the keys, and whether this feature can be switched off. Early suggestions are that M$ wants PC manufactures to only approve keys for Windows, and to lock the box down to never be able to boot from another OS. The practical upshot of this is that when you buy a PC, not only will you not be able to put Linux on it, but also, it will only run the "approved" version of Windows.

I leave it to the rest of the NG to decide if this is good or bad.

Reply to
Jethro

I disagree ... As someone who used Macs during that time they were slow ... very slow, but easy to learn and intuitive. when PC's came out with far more processing power at a much reduced per unit cost ... Mac sales and business use plummeted. (apart from some niche graphic useage)

The business went bust as far as MAC PC's concerned in mid 90's (not sure if that was when Jobs left) ... the iPhone turned it round in past 5 years for sure. Interesting though Android has much higher market share than Iphone .. and that is by giving away away an open platform (Android) ... pattern forming here?

Microsoft simply provided what business (and eventually the public) wanted ... cheap, powerful, easy to use m/c .... with cheap s/w and like it or not Microsoft brought that. At the time of AppleIIe you had Spekturm, BBC, Dragon, Acorn, Commodore 64, Atari ..... they all died ...

It took business software to make things happen. ( MS Word, Excel)

Reply to
Rick Hughes

Given the choice of paying Bob 20 quid for something or getting it for free from you, I suspect many on here would go for the former since they're more likely to get something which works.

That's the same model RH etc use. They provide well controlled builds which people can certify will work with their software, which means less risk for the business.

Reply to
Clive George

No, that's when Jobs went *back* to Apple. What turned it round was the original iMac.

Mmmm. Available for the Mac some 5 years before there was a Windows version. I was using Word 4 on the Mac in the mid 80s or so, well before there was anything other than a joke version of Windows. Excel was released as a Mac program two years before any Windows version. Things like FrameMaker and PageMaker (since replaced by InDesign) were developed on the Mac too, as there was no other decent GUI-based system at the time.

Reply to
Tim Streater

Clever people try it to see. Then they dump it.

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dennis

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