OT: Money worries

[Bill Wright]

Yes. A happy memory for me.

Bill

[Bill Wright]

The fact that they can afford it is not a justification for taking it off them. If you think it is you are a commie.

Bill

[Bill Wright]

Well sometimes you can look at a question from a different angle.

I don't have a vehicle that young so I wouldn't know.

Bill

[Bill Wright]

Thank you

Bill

[Tim Lamb]

I see Albert is not afraid of Roundup:-)

[Java Jive]

I know that logic is not your strong point, but let's follow that argument to its various logical conclusions ...

Income tax was invented to pay for the Napoleonic wars, so according to your school-playground logic that makes William Pitt The Younger the first ever 'commie'!

Still following your childish argument, let's see what life would be like without every thing that the government provides out of 'commie' income tax revenues. In 2017 the government raised £185bn through income tax, whereas it spent £155bn on Health services, which two figures are broadly on a par. So imagine a non-'commie' world where there was no NHS, would you even still be alive to plague us with your puerile OT stupidities?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Very true. Lets go back to lord and serfs. You just know it makes sense. Oddly, most who are in fact serfs think of themselves as lords.

[Cursitor Doom]

Nonsense. The US has no socialised healthcare system like ours, but it hasn't stopped them becoming the most dynamic economy the world has ever seen.

[Java Jive]

The 'most dynamic economy' that in 2007/8 gave us the sub-prime mortgage world slump. However I wasn't talking about whether income tax affects the economy, I was talking about its use to provide public healthcare to all regardless of income.

The US's lack of socialised healthcare - as you describe it because actually I believe there is some provision, though I am not familiar with its current details - has been the subject of great controversy there. I suspect that mentioning Obamacare in a bar over there would very soon land you in a heated argument, though to most UK citizens it seems merely natural and just that health care should be freely available to all.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Then the answer is easy. Go and live there. They welcome rich people we're told. And just pray you can get health insurance. But perhaps you prefer charity.

I take it since you don't believe in insurance, you don't use it for anything?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Here's a story.

Pal's sister remarried after her first husband died. His work had provided their health insurance. As did the second husband's - although 'only' a bus driver. Unfortunately, he was a rogue, and re-mortgaged *her* house. Which had become theirs. And ran off with all the money. Leaving her with no health care. And had to rely on charity.

Just the sort of thing that really would be Doom to most.

Odd isn't it. In the land of free enterprise, an employer is not only expected to provide a pension, but pay for health care too.

[Bill Wright]

No, he regarded garden weeds and pests as enemies and his attitudes towards them were formed during World War II. His method of dealing with wasps' nests could be described as 'shock and awe' and serious involved protective clothing, the evacuation of the area, and a great deal of petrol.

Bill

[Bill Wright]

It's a well known characteristic of the left that it has no sense of humour.

Bill

[Bill Wright]

You originally objected to me saying, "The fact that they can afford it is not a justification for taking it off them. If you think it is you are a commie." You completely misunderstood my point (so ready were you to jump). It's all about the justification for taxing the rich. 'The fact that they can afford it' is not a reasonable justification, but of course there are other justifications, many of which are reasonable, indeed almost unarguable. You are saying that the rich should be taxed BECAUSE THEY ARE RICH. That's the politics of envy; it's ugly and it does prove you're a commie. The rich should be taxed in order to raise revenue, not for the moralistic, envy-based reasons that appeal to leftists like yourself. Incidentally I am a great supporter of socialised, free-at-the-point-of-delivery medicine. You might find that surprising but you see, I consider each issue on its merits, rather than parroting the party line line you.

Bill

[The Natural Philosopher]

And yet its full of comedians - like Plowperson and Corbyn.

Both complete jokes.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

You'd best go back to discussing things you 'know' about. Like how impossible it would be to detect an error of 1% between road wheel speeds.

[Java Jive]

It's a well-know characteristic of Bill Wright that is humour is too childish for his age.

[Woody]

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Prince Charles spent three days in a NHS hospital in Cirencester in

1990 after breaking his arm playing polo, and was also treated in A&E at the QMC in Nottingham in 2001 after breaking a small bone in his shoulder in a riding accident in Derbyshire.

Is that a different deal?

[Java Jive]

So why give it further publicity by replying with it quoted in full, untrimmed?

[Cursitor Doom]

You're obviously a fool or a troll.