OT: Computer stuff

No surprise there. given how broken SCO is.

En el artículo , Tim Streater escribió:

A Freudian slip, most probably :-)

En el artículo , Tim Streater escribió:

It's a steep learning curve, for sure. Anyone who tells you they are a

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I use Linux/Unix at work and Windows at home for years and years, but spent last week in Germany staying with mates and used their iMac. Have to say I'm very tempted to go over to the dark side. It's just absolutely gorgeous.

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Ta, will give it a whirl.

For a Mac, not only would he have to grow a Unix beard, he'd need sandals and a bike as well ... :-)

Arfa

A *nix expert wouldn't tell you that anyway.

So your advice is to piss away good money after bad?

That's a little strong.

And which is why I use a Mac.

Unfortunately I have similar, although smaller in magnitude, feelings about Macs. I bought a Mac Mini a couple of years ago to see what the fuss was about and (i) it didn't "just work" (the video editing tool crashed repeatedly and reinstalling just that was a right faff, involving downloading tools to unpack the installation dmg - I began to think "Hang on, this is the kind of bollocks I was trying to get away from") & (ii) I ended up with a 24 item list of things about it that irritated me greatly.

I sold it.

Although now Ubuntu is changing its UI, I may reconsider. The photo editing stuff on Mac looks pretty good.

Odd, mine have "just worked". We've had 4 here, all told, so far, and come new year will get another, with SWMBO's existing going to FiL. Which video editing tool was that, anyway? I've not done any of that for a few years but iMovie worked with no problems (within its limitations) back then. I don't like any existing email client, so I've written my own (an interesting experience) but all the tools and components are there to do that.

Whichever one it is comes built in. iMovie, perhaps? That was a specific requirement of mine, and it was a right royal PITA that it didn't work.

In fact, IIRC, even reinstalling it didn't make it work, and it wasn't until a couple of updates from Apple later that it started working properly.

Starnge that on my mac mini mid 2010 iMovie was pre-installed as part of Leopard OS X IIRC, unless there;'s another video tool you tried to install.

I've since updated to snow leopard, then, lion, I'll go to mountain lion soon. Although I backed up each time I had no problems with the updates. The SL update was free too :-)

Presumably that's why Apple machines cost hundreds more than bog standard PC's. To cover the cost of all the soft toys they have to send out, every time they update their OS. Presumably Bambi is due sometime in 2014.

michael adams

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Oh goody, another twerp on this ng.

switch to Debian. Traditional and simple Gnome II. Or KDE.

I too have been less than impressed with Macs. Like Windows they have gone for a flashy superficially impressive interface to impress the non technical, at the price of some deep compromises hidden behind the bling.

And all marked 'no user serviceable parts inside'

Linux may not have the third party apps, but in the end its a damned sight easier to configure to what YOU want, rather than some random suit at Apple or Microsoft thinks will sell the product.

I think this is the fork in the road, where Apple is firmly 'an appliance' windows is just s**te and only Linux is really 'a desktop computer' in the old fashioned sense.

Consumer will go one way and professional another.

I found 2 groups REALLY helpful ... just built a new PC based on help there ..