How retarded are you, exactly? Retarded enough not to know that Ubuntu comes with iptables, and that no Linux needs a firewall in the same way that Winblows does. And yet of sufficient intellect to post garbage to Usenet and demonstrate that you are a window-licker.
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Thanks.
I wasn't aware of the F8, only F2 and F12 appear briefly on start-up. I did in desperation try all the F keys at one time or another but obviously not at the right time.
However I am no further forward with F8. The computer considers the 'Last known working' boot is the SP 3 update and that, safe mode, et al all arrive at the same stop sign.
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This machine runs Win 98 (but not perfectly).
If I understand this correctly you need the system disc to make the Bart disk. My Dell was supplied without a system disc on the apparently spurious grounds that one was not needed.
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I didn't think to ask. I just assumed it was a legitimate update.
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Much as I would like to lose my dependence on Microsoft I would be completely out of my depth with that even assuming I could get hold of Ubuntu without a broadband connection.
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I have not as yet dared to try that but I suspect I would come up against the same stop as for all the other avenues tried so far.
Many thanks to all those who have contributed to this thread.
Win 98 and perfectly don't fit comfortably in the same sentence.
No, Dell have a "secret recovery" partition in all machines shipped after either June 04 or 05, and CTRL-F11 will activate the "installer" for it - it's a completely seperate process to running Windows.
Yes, you do. I think any system disk will do. If I assume you have one ( just not the right one for your current purposes ), and I wanted to be helpful, I could save you the fuss of knocking up a Bart Disk by copying mine and sending to you...
Regards,
You have to catch the F8 key juuuust after the bios finishes and Windows boots. It often helps to go into the bios and set it so that it displays the boot process....you get more of an idea when it's finished.
I suspect you're ( word beginning with F, ending with D )!
I suspect too that you won't be alone for long, and that someone else will have the same proplems...and a solution.
Regards,
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Very kind of you to offer but if you don't mind can we leave that on hold for the moment. I wouldn't want to put you to any trouble if I can solve the problem locally.
I am not sure I even have a Win 98 disc. I will have to have a search through the junk.
They do if you add the word "crap".
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Bought April 06 so all I need to do is get my unsaved data off the drive. I need to boot the machine to even see what is on the external drive as I can't remember exactly what I have backed up.
IIRC, the latest version of Bart can build from an installed windows version and does not need the CD. Obviously not getting much closer to a solution if there is no working windows box available to make the CD on though.
I take it you don't have the recovery console installed? (it would be an option on the boot menu if you did).
"Last known good" is often slightly south of useless, however XP does keep a multitude of registry backups etc and that can can come in handy at times.
Again you will need Bart or something similar (a "Live" CD of some sort), but you can find historical versions of many files in the hidden System Volume Information folder on the windows drive. Inside is usually a folder called "_restore" with a long string of numbers as a suffix. Inside that you will find RPnnn Restore Point folders, and in them are snapshot folders with registry backups and other old file versions. These are often first port of call for recovering a hosed registry or similar.
No probs...got one spare..anytime.
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Not on the 40+ Dell machines I've bought for clients in the last three years they don't but who am I to argue. Maybe on the home user stuff they do. If the OP is anywhere near Manchester I'd be happy to help him recover from this problem for free (well almost free, there may be biccies and a cuppa involved!)
Perhaps it is only on "home" machines - who knows :-}
Same applies over the recovery though, i'm in Liverpool - can post a disc out if reqd etc.
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Doesn't look like it. I wasn't aware there was such a thing.
SP3 made a restore point if only I could get to it but how would I get it to run if I booted from a Bart Disk?
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