OT: Been scammed.

[Dave Plowman (News]

Bought a model maker's saw bench as advertised on FaceBook. Was a very good price - but who knows what such things actually cost to mass produce?

What turned up was the saw blade only. Just a simple steel blade. Would have been solid gold for the price I paid. ;-)

Thinking it a mistake, contacted the seller via PayPal. They said that was what they had advertised - blade only.

This is the headline wording of the ad from PayPal:-

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Seller information Dongguan Shunfa Logistics Co., Ltd.

Purchase details MINI TABLE SAW WOODWORKING BENCH LATHE ELECTRIC POLISHER GRINDER DIY MODEL CUTTING SAW AND BLADE

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Their website is odd, to say the least.

If they'd left out the 'and' from the description, they might have a leg to stand on. ;-)

[Andy Burns]

Assuming the scam was from here

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their shop seems to have gone away, what does paypal's buyer protection have to say?

[alan_m]

Everything advertised on facebook is over priced!

Often if you see an item on facebook advertised by a company a quick Google will often find the same item at a much cheaper price, and possibly from someone trading in the UK.

[Dave Plowman (News]

They're looking into it - just contacted them today.

[Dave Plowman (News]

In general, yes. But not always.

Quite.

[Bob Eager]

If you're still looking - I bought a Proxxon one and am happy with it. My brother is also a fan and he does a lot of model making.

[Tim+]

I got scammed last month by a Facebook ad. Have vowed to never buy anything via facebook again.

Seller sent very inferior product, will only discuss refund in full if I return item (worth $10 at most). Return postage to China over £20. Won?t discuss partial refund. PayPal no help.

Tim

[Scott]

Don't hold your breath on that one.

I had an item not received - plainly lost by the courier per tracking data. After eight weeks it was not resolved. All they did was to increment the resolution date each time I looked. Complaints were met by automated replies. I am now closing my account. I would rather take my chances with Visa Chargeback.

[Dave Plowman (News]

Interesting. Never had to ask PayPal for help before. Ah well.

Seems this is a known scam. When ordering 'blade only' is in the small print.

[RayL12]

I remember a story in early days of Ebay when people who thought they were buying a product, as displayed in the picture were, indeed, just paying for the picture.

[Andy Burns]

Dolls house sized items of furniture were/are also common.

[spuorgelgoog]

Or the CE-marked cardboard boxes.

The box was CE compliant.

The product inside wasn't.

Owain

[Muddymike]

Ive had the same problem. Ordered a Worx saw advertised as coming with three different blades. Only the blades arrived, seller offered 50% discount, when I refused saying I'll claim through PayPal they just refunded 100% and didn't want the blades back.

Mike

[Andrew]

Phone Nick Clegg

[Andrew]

Aren't there two versions of 'CE' ?. One means EU certified the other means China Export

[Dave Plowman (News]

Seems there's nothing new under the sun. I did contact the seller, and they're not admitting anything.

I suppose to some about £30 is too small a sum to bother about.

[Adrian Caspersz]

The logo is slightly different. If all the tips of the E are in a straight line it's definitely genuine Chinese export.

If the middle is shorter, it is a EU certification fraud.

[Brian Gaff (Sofa]

Now you see, I have had nothing but good results from Paypal. I suspect it maybe depends on other factors, ie was it a scam or was it genuine loss, how much is involved etc than any policy to not refund. Brian

[Theo]

Urban myth

[Dave Plowman (News]

This is the first time I've ever asked for help from PayPal. Ebay, different. Hope they don't disappoint - as I otherwise like them.

They are the cheapest/most convenient way of paying for our car club membership. Both for the members and the club.