OT: Apple Mac computers

If you say so, I never broke it.

As I said which version?

They just allow the user to think he has a backup, he will still lose his data.

Carbonite to you!

Its you that thinks Macs come with a fully functional backup program.

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dennis
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No - there isn't.

Entourage 2008 doesn't work with Exchange 2007 (great eh?) unless you enable all sorts of legacy dross on Exchange which I'm not keen on doing.

Anyway, have you ever *actually used* entourage? Outlook is a great scheduling /calendaring tool (as much as it pains me to say that :)) - entourage is an entirely different beast :-(

MS appear to have made the business decision not to port Outlook (although their MAPI excuse is getting weaker and potentially disappears with the next Exchange release moving to webservices) to avoid large businesses having a viable option of migrating to Macs for desktops.

Yeah, it's not bad. Aperture likewise. They aren't free though - and they aren't anywhere as simple as Picassa in the "wife can upload snaps and print them" category.

Darren

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dmc

Unlucky (or maybe I've been lucky!)

I've used this on many many computers and I can't think of a time it's failed in that way. There are a few machines missing from their compat list however (laptops mainly - fair enough really).

Darren

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dmc

Did you consider the mini-itx boards and the Atom cpu?

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?Tad specialised I admit - but great as a little router/server

Darren

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dmc

It has 512 thingybobs, I can upgrade to 2 GB for about £28 - would that be 'a good thing'?

Thats running & will take about an hour apparently, I'll report back.

Cheers

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The Medway Handyman

Can't rememebr the details of UAC prompts but I think in an environment where you are connecting lots of different printers, installing software for testing (i.e. several times a day), etc. they get to be truly tedious.

Perhaps the worst thing is that instead of being able to click on something that takes a few minutes to do, go for a piss or to make tea, and find it done when you get back, you find the UAC prompt and nothing done.

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Rod

One it didn't like was a Shuttle XPC. Works fine on my Toshiba M30 laptop. :-)

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Rod

He knows that, he is just trying to score points.

As it happens the machine in question does run AV software in his context but I though he looked silly without anymore help (its running a couple of security cameras which, of course, are AV).

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dennis

You can't argue with that, most of it works on windows so it should work on a Mac.

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dennis

Certainly OE5 (or whatever it was called - the one that shipped with IE XP) was really rather brain dead in it's use of imap servers (speaking here as someone who has been running large scale imap services for >10 years now)

No idea what the new mail client in Vista is like.

Most (>99% I'd guess) of the restore requests we get are for user deleted files. How will time machine not help with that? It's certainly a lot easier than an offsite backup would be.

We are talking about user backups here to protect against the accidental deletion or the wied file corruption when an app craps out. Time machine isn't pretending to be a full DR solution.

I'm interested to know what you experience of real backup systems is.

Errrr - we run a large backup system backing up hundreds of machines to disk VTLs and onto tape jukeboxes. Nearly all of our recovery requests are for deleted files. Online/near line disk storage is hard to beat for this type of use...

Darren

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dmc

Unless you are going to replace it in the near future, I would do definitely so. On my laptop, the difference when I got to 1 GB was very signficant.

Whether it is worth the £44 to go up to 2 GB (for me) is more arguable.

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Rod

In article , Andy Hall scribeth thus

Yes isn't that for some silly tax reason that might not be applicable to the man in the Medway?..

I've seen perfectly serviceable Pentium 4 machines at a scrappers recently the reason he gets them is that he has a drive cruncher!.

A drive shredder if you like!.

And charges for disposing of them in order that their data is really destroyed and the metal goes to the local scrap dealer and the rest inc old CRT monitors goes in a container to India!...

Silly thing is that for most all general office applications an old 500 odd meg machine will run them fine!..

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tony sayer

Not aware of an OSX port but anyway, it doesn't work again Exchange 2007 AFAIK.

It's certainly not an outlook killer either in terms of collaboration tools (integration with OCS server for example although MS are making useful noises in that direction).

Darren

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dmc

You can run a 3G modem into a Draytek router using 10/100 wired or wireless and that will tick fine as long as you don't start using it too much!...

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tony sayer

You are stupid enough to /start/ the insults and that is a good sign that you are really stupid. Just remember that I never called you stupid until you proved it by chucking insults.

Reply to
dennis

That's for the graphical installer. There is an alternate text mode installer which I used to install Ubuntu on a Compaq Armada laptop with 192 MB. Once installed it ran quite happily.

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Bob Martin

What has Windows ME got to do with it?

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Rod

Atom wasn't available at the time. But yes I considered mini-ITX, and it cost more than a Mini for a similarly specced Core2 Duo system.

Mebbe in future but I got the Mini.

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Steve Firth

I get about a 90% success rate with it.

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John Rumm

Andy claims it is. I know what its for and it isn't backup.

Like the one that keeps all the BT call record data safe? Can't tell you or I get into trouble.

You already said time machine wasn't a backup solution, in this post.

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dennis

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