Ooops

[soup]

Was glazing the son's greenhouse. Got virtualy all the sheets up, second to last big sheet (I swear blind I didn't knock it os drop it or anything like that) shattered in my hands, it litelarly exploded, so all the rest is done just this one hole, ah well (real pisser as everything else went well just this one pane). Toughened glass too, "they" advertise it as strong enough to support the "teams" weight [three men],strongly suspest that there was some sort of flaw/stressor in the pane and carrying it was enough to set of the explosion.

So if anyone has a sheet of 3mm Toughened glass 610 x 1197mm let me know as Elite will supply it free but they want £25:00 delivery. Smile

[Tim Lamb]

In message , soup writes

I had not long finished building one here when a Mallard duck wandered in and left by the most direct route:-(

3mm sounds a bit thin?

I do have some sheets of toughened glass, rescued when the local school had new windows. Fair bit bigger than that though. Probably 1.5m x 1.5m if anyone wants some free garden cloches.

regards

[Andy Hall]

This is unfortunately one of the things about toughened glass. Fine across the surface, but catch the edge and ... bang!!

Given what you have, probably the cheapest way would be to go to a local glass shop, get a piece cut and toughened. Then ask Elite for a refund to that value. This seems to be something that greenhouse suppliers tend to do because the major cost is in the shipping.

[Andy Hall]

Unfortunately one can't cut toughened glass. It has to be cut and worked and then toughened.

[Lobster]

Yeah same thing happened to me a few months ago when I was installing a full length fixed light by the front door (as reported here at the time!) I absolutely didn't knock it in any way, I was just standing there holding it when it went off. Nearly pooped myself...

David

[Pete C]

Might have been a 'nickel sulphide inclusion':

Try a local firm that builds double glazed units, they will be able to get toughened glass to order.

cheers, Pete.

[jal]

As a matter of interest: how is it toughened? I always thought that toughened glass was some part of the alchemy that goes on back at the manufacturing plant. You seem to say, Andy, that my local glass geezer can toughen it.

John

[damn: what a strange word 'toughened' is: I've typed it three times above and it's now one of those words that gets me thinking 'how the hell does anyone ever learn English?']

[soup]

Basically it is heat treated "they" heat it to above its melting point then rapidly cool the surface letting the innards cool in there own sweettime this leads to the surface being under tension (makes it stronger but if it breaks it "bursts" into a million (

[Andy Hall]

I have ordered toughened glass for doors for a vivarium in the past. This involved cutting the pieces, rounding the edges and machining into the surface to form "handles".

The local glass merchant did the cutting and machining work and then sent the pieces to a place for the toughening heat treatment.

He told me that sometimes for more complicated things they just send the entire order to a specialist place.

Whether you could find the specialist places with facilities themselves and whether it would then be any cheaper, I don't know. I suspect that they are trade organisations that don't deal with end punters. At any rate, it wasn't obvious where such people were and I wasn't going to spend half a day on it.

At this point, your max cost is £25, so if you can come in under that, then fine. Otherwise it's a trade off between cost and time spent.

[Mary Fisher]

Try learning Icelandic ...

[Paul Herber]

Icelandic is 99% phonetic, but that's the easy bit.

[RobertL]

it's not that phonetic: You have "ll" sometimes pronounced like "tl" as in hellisandur and you have "f" sometimes pronounced like "p" as in keflavik.

Robert

[Mary Fisher]

It's phonetic as long as you know the values :-)

But as the man said, that's the easy bit.

Mary

[Lobster]

Try:

"Rough-coated, dough-faced, thoughtful ploughman John Gough strode through the streets of Loughborough; after falling into a slough on Coughlin Road near the lough (dry due to drought), he coughed and hiccoughed, then checked his horse's houghs and washed up in a trough".

David