There may be much virtue signalling in the world, but supermarkets do not waste an inch of shelf space on something that is not generating enough profit. So either vegan food has more profit margin or is growing in sales volume. TV advertising (or even in-store advertising) is one thing, but shelf space is another.
Bugger forgot to add the footnote:
(*) Only do a mental "is everything there, that is expected to be there" check whilst removing the (unbagged) goods from crate(s). I'd probably tick off against a printed list if the list produced by the supermarket used sensible names and was alpha sorted and well spaced.
Guess one could always get a barcode scanner and scan stuff as you take it out of the crate and have something tick it off for you.
Talking about heads being cut off, have you heard about
Isn't that a possible solution, as Mike obviously couldn't suffer? They could be anaesthetised, beheaded, and fattened painlessly before being prepared for the oven.
Quite.
I wouldn't have thought so, not yet.
More likely.
Quite ... and given the likes of Asda have now dedicated whole isles to their vegan products [1] ... would confirm it's on the rise.
And the take-away places of course:
Cheers, T i m
[1] Partly I believe because they are now organising all the vegan stuff in one place. Good for those of us who have already seen though all the indoctrination and marketing and do care about animals and their suffering (and we don't have to sort though all the dead bodies to find clean food) but not so good for the animals as some might find it easier to avoid vegan stuff, like Spike, as he actively seeks out foods that causes the *most* animal suffering (it's what happens when you are normalized to animal cruelty as a child, it turns you into a psycho). ;-(You can see it now on the News sometime in the future ... "He was a pretty quiet guy, mostly kept himself to himself and I would never have thought he could be torturing all those animals in his basement just for fun ..." ;-(
Alive but not sentient.
Luckily they don't feel pain ... that would be a sad trick to play on something eh, make them feel pain but not give them the means to move away from it.
Oh yes, there are some real clever things going on in nature.
I'll take your word for that. ;-)
Cheers, T i m
On Thu, 19 Nov 2020 13:31:29 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Liquorice"
<snip>8 is many, even out of 47. ;-)
I'm not sure I would ... what happens when that's the last one?
Are you a vegi or a vegan Dave as 'we' (our little family group) think dairy (and eggs to a lesser degree) is worse than beef in many ways ...
Yup, I think most people would understand (and support) killing an animal under such circumstances, it *is* showing kindness and compassion. But I doubt many would accept the vet clubbing their pet cat or dog to death (that has a terminal illness etc) with a wheel brace as 'humane' (or gassing or electrically stunning first) compared with a lethal injection.
Well, I question the concept of any 'killing' being humane but if there is no other solution that doesn't involve death then I guess humane is better then inhumane.
Sure.
The only thing I've tried cooking and not fished eating was some 'scrambled egg' on toast. The toast was a home made loaf (kit) that came out very heavy and the 'egg' was a very hard Tofu that I'd over salted (black salt that gives the sulphur taste of egg). I've made it once before and on a lighter toast and a 'silky hard' Tofu and it was ok. The Mrs finished hers though *and* said she's have it again?
Cheers, T i m
I have a barcode scanner here and have used it to do a lookup of previously stored data (via a program of some sort) and populate a text file. I wouldn't take much (for a programmer) to use such to generate a file and compare that against your list?
OCR the list in ... ? ;-)
Cheers, T i m
A headless chicken is no more likely to suffer than a vegetable.
Other than whilst gaining the status of 'headless' in the first place of course.
Interesting to see you are another one who thinks there is such a thing as 'humane slaughter' and worse that a failed attempt at such could be considered anything other than a bad and sick thing.
Like having a colonoscopy then.
Bill
Tim, could you please tell us what you think about Halal slaughter?
Bill
Bored Bill, fancied some trolling? You want me to answer that *again*?
What do you think I would think of the slaughter of any innocent creature, no matter what the prefix?
But you have already stated your position, 'if you want something and can afford it, you'll have it', even if it's not actually yours to take or that you don't actually need, you are just satisfying your own desires and pleasure, irrespective of the suffering of anyone else?
Cheers, T i m
I've had a weekly Tesco delivery since the first lockdown. Priority.
None of the different drivers have ever rushed me. Quite the reverse - I don't want to keep them waiting, so empty the crates in the hall, and sort it out afterwards.
Maybe they could breed headless chickens...
Well, they are already creating 'lab meat', if you absolutely must have something that is close to animal flesh for some reason?
But why do you, in 2020?
Yes, I know there were periods in the history of humanity where we had to get food where we could but for the vast majority that's no longer the case (and we don't).
And ironically, if those of us who have the easy option of not eating meat, eggs and dairy stopped doing so and they stopped feeding as much foodstuff to animals to inefficiently convert into meat (doing more harm to the planet and us), there would actually be *more* food to go round.
But hey, it's obvious that many people either DGAF about the welfare of animals, or prefer to turn a blind eye to all the cruelty, suffering and death, *just* because they 'like the taste'.
Doesn't really seem like a good enough reason to condemn trillions of innocent animals to death every year to me.
In article snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>, Roger Hayter snipped-for-privacy@hayter.org writes
More profit margin. They're all cashing in on the johnny come latelys
We've been veggies for years 40+. It was always a dilemma. To have more choice required it to become more popular. Make it more popular and the big boys want to cash in and bend the rules, cut corners and put the specialists out of business.
No, it is you who up to now has shown no compassion towards animal welfare. You shun every attempt to improve them.
When was the last time you campaigned against the practice of not stunning or bolting an animal, so they are no longer aware of their environment, before being hung upside down and allowed to bleed to death?
This has always been about your jealousy towards us having loved ones who allow us to eat meat.
Shame it wasn't vegan. ;-(
Regarding commercial offerings or when eating out possibly but there is more 'vegan' choice out there than non vegan and always has been.
Yup, that commercialism for you.
Such as OOI?
Cheers, T i m
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