National Grid tripping out

It is his thread, may be it is his prerogative ? :)

Oh, b****r, I didn't notice that the clueless one had posted via Gurgle Gropes.

I withdraw my post as being totally unsuited to the audience, I should have simplified it much, much, more.

They'be been around all the lines up here last year tree cutting, NORWEB or Electricity North West as they call themselves now. Saw DNO tree cutting last week as well but not sure where, might have been on the way to Harrogate, Carlisle or Hexham...

Normally a bit of tree that has grown enough to reach the lines is small and simply explodes on contact and is no longer a problem. B-) This probably trips the protection but most are now auto-reclosers so after a second or two they reconnect.

We had this happen quite a lot once and do live in a s***ty!..

However on a more practical note ask a few houses to the left and right of you (or if a block of flats a few numbers up and down) to see if they might have noticed the same thing this will then eliminate your house wiring. Reason for this a few houses either way is that normally in low voltage distribution there will be a three phase cable and alternate houses will be fed of that to balance the load across the phases.

If they are getting the same problem then its definitely a distribution problem and then get onto whoever it is who looks after the network in that area, like here in Cambridge and most of the south east its UK Power Notworks.

If everyone else is fine then it may well be in your power incomer or switching somewhere...

Do bear in mind when asking neighbours they sometime have the habit of seeing this sort of thing in a different way, some might have never noticed some might think its quite normal;!..

FWIW in our case it cleared up by itself quite sometime ago now;)..

The only clown on this thread is yourself. You start by making statements that were clearly nonsensical then start abusing those who tried to make sense of what you said. A few facts for you. Retail customers such as yourself do not get their supply direct from the National Grid. Momentary interruptions in mains electricity supplies are a normal and unavoidable fact of how distribution system works. They occur in towns and cities just as they do in the countryside.

What you have been experiencing is, in my experience, normal for Stoke.

I do know how to improve the service, though. Sack all the existing staff and hire more competent ones. Then rip out the existing National Grid and replace it with one to your specification. This will, unfortunately, not be cheap.

Alternatively, move to somewhere with a more reliable supply, possibly installing a UPS for your entire house. Just be aware that a UPS of that size needs a backup standby supply, as the odds are it will fail every few years.

If you're having computer problems caused by power supply failures, I'd recommend either installing a UPS for a desktop computer, or do as I do and use a laptop, with an optional external screen and keyboard. The last time I had a power failure at home, it took me half an hour to notice it, because I use 12 volt lighting running off a 200 amp hour battery bank, and the laptop and 3G router both have a couple of hours worth of internal power. This gives me enough time to start the engine and switch to inverter power after disconnecting the shore supply. Then I'm okay for a few days, given the size of the fuel tank in the engine room.

I am getting old. ( only did it once in the post)

If the OP is living near the centre of Stoke, 90% of the domestic supplies are under ground, with most of the rest running along the house walls at first floor level. The only noticeable overhead cables there are phone lines and the main grid feeds in at 132kV and above.

Don't worry. It keeps us alert and amused.

If it was a forum it might well have been his prerogative!

Nope.

Next question.

Thanks for the advice. I knew there would be someone sensible in the murk eventually.

I have always known there was something wrong with the service in this part of town as they were relatively rare across the other side of it. I just didn't know what to do about it.

I'm going to have to plug a digital lock into the mains now. It's about time so to speak. The microwave has been sitting idle long enough. I'll have to get some sort of recorder for the problem. Any ideas what sort of app I could use?

A digital clock resetting will only record one outage and default to the factory set time (on the microwave which is set to 1 am for whatever reasons I can't guess.) I don't suppose there is a cheap device that would record all outages is there?

They all seem to occur in the night so I don't really need UPS plus Firefox/ Linux (Mageia) records my stuff on a shut-down and I only lose patience as exemplified in my posts here.

In article , Weatherlawyer writes

Maybe you should have waited for the ale to wear off before posting?

Whilst it isn't a court of law nor a tribunal. If that is what you are refe rring to. Or do you confine the term to a discussion among experts?

It isn't a public square or marketplace of an ancient Roman city that was t he assembly place for judicial activity and public business. That IS true t oo but it is a public meeting place for open discussion even including adri ans and dawlishes. And it conforms to this definition too: Medium for open discussion or voicing of ideas, such as a newspaper, a radi o or television program, or a website.

Nice reply thanks. I am getting tired of nursing the thread now as trolling is boring and quite childish despite the occasional smile engendered. When this happens in the dark you can see all the lights switched off outside, hear the alarms start up then shut off too. And finally the sirens for what ever accidents might have occurred in late evening traffic.

I don't know where one expert found out I was referring to outages of many seconds nor how some of the others know it wasn't milliseconds, nor do I ca re. I probably won't do much about it but it was nice to know that there ar e still some competent people on here not buried among the "experts" too de eply.

Sadly the pedant to clued ratio is greater than I have time for, which is w hy I tend to keep out of here these days. Thanks to sundry but not to all.

As has been stated: The closing or otherwise of this thread is not my gift. Nor would I have it any other way. That was part of the greatness that was Rome, public discus sion among citizens was never an indictable offence.

But then, I never said it was my right to close it. Unfortunately the Roman demand that citizens needed to have brains that were fully functional no l onger applies. It must have played a large part in the downfall of the init ial culture that was Rome that idiots could buy citizenship.

Here of course the thread is quite likely to reach over 300 post before som eone mentions a later German version and end the game but I am not going to be here for that. Weatherlawyer's out of here.

That is exactly what this is. It's Usenet, which you are accessing through Google Groups, which pretend to be a forum.

Are you in denial that this is a public place where anything can be said, without fear of a moderator of censuring your post or banning you from future posting?

What are the characteristics of a forum you had in mind different to a newsgroup?

I believe we all discovered that your one millisecond wasn't really a millisecond when you abused a fellow poster for questioning your claim that you could see a one millisecond outage from a flicker of a light.