What if they were trying to pass on the fact that one of the biggest killers of older men is ischaemic heart disease, that is made more likely by high cholesterol and that comes from eating too much fat, typically as found in meat?
I wonder why part of the general guidance for good health is to cut down on your meat intake [1] (and avoid processed meats completely) and increase your intake of fruits, veg, grains and nuts etc?
Cheers, T i m
[1] And according to both the British Dietetic Association and the American Dietetic Association', to name just two groups knowledgeable in this field (comprised of many thousand diet specialists between them, 9000 in the UK), suggests that:
"British Dietetic Association confirms well-planned vegan diets can support healthy living in people of all ages"
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Obviously, no use if you enjoy cholesterol and the hunt, kill, tearing the animal to pieces with your canine teeth and claws, using your bone crushing jaws and eating it raw.
Oh, and yes, 'of course' you have the right to smoke / meat-eat yourself into an early grave if that's what you want, but I was advised to take up the flu jab so as I was less likely to become a burden to the NHS and so society?
Ugh. The two ingredients I don't want in bread. Cranks 'solid' wholemeal unsliced for me, but I have to make a 10 mile round trip to Waitrose to buy it (*), and on half the occasions they don't have any.
(*) except I don't, I just pop in on the way back from anywhere else.
Prescribed to people who do not have a brain too ..
i.e. The same people who think the NHS is wonderful, and free, so 'free' statins means they don't have to bother with diet and exercise or any other sort of annoying lifestyle changes.
A lot of our cholesterol is actually made in our livers. Sugars can make a major contribution to cholesterol levels.
Not that they ever measure cholesterol. They actually measure lipoproteins. HDL and LDL.
"Although a high dietary cholesterol intake was considered as a risk factor for cardiovascular diseases (CVD), recent evidence suggests that it does not increase significantly low-density lipoprotein cholesterol (LDL-C) levels in the circulation."
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As far as I am aware, much of the discussion about limiting meat intake is to do with things entirely other than cholesterol.
"Food and fasting Main articles: Jain vegetarianism and Fasting in Jainism
The practice of non-violence towards all living beings has led to Jain culture being vegetarian. Devout Jains practice lacto-vegetarianism, meaning that they eat no eggs, but accept dairy products if there is no violence against animals during their production. Veganism is encouraged if there are concerns about animal welfare"
And a 'balanced vegan diet' can provide that?
Quite, and the point.
What you might need to consider is that how many people have a 'balanced diet' in the first place and why do they only seem to become dietary experts when someone suggests they don't *need* to consume animal flesh and excretions to live a long and healthy life?
What part of the BDA and ADA's findings don't you agree with specifically?
We have been looking into vegan dog foods because it's difficult to justify killing of one animal just to feed another when such may not be necessary (just as it applies to us etc). So say you were to feed your dog with a 'balanced vegan diet' and it lived as healthily and as long or longer [1] as any other dogs of that breed and lifestyle, what would be the problem?
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Cheers, T i m
[1] Many dogs die of cancer, much of it brought on by the crap that ends up in traditional 'meat' based dog foods, along with salmonella etc.
Sure again, but they also come from the fats in meats yes, meats that we don't 'need' to eat and it's suggested can be bad for us?
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(The irony of that made me laugh anyway).
Ok.
Well, with food and it's impact on us I'm sure there are *loads* of interacting facets, however, the 'general advice' still stands of reducing animal based products and increasing everything else? Even the meat farmers you see on TV when being interviewed re the future of our food production admit it has / should go that way (for all sorts of reasons, inc both live stock and human wellbeing).
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"Prevention
The same lifestyle habits used to help treat coronary artery disease can also help prevent it. A healthy lifestyle can help keep your arteries strong and clear of plaque. To improve your heart health, follow these tips:
Quit smoking. Control conditions such as high blood pressure, high cholesterol and diabetes. Stay physically active. Eat a low-fat, low-salt diet that's rich in fruits, vegetables and whole grains. Maintain a healthy weight. Reduce and manage stress."
All I can see there is the advice to 'Eat a low-fat, low-salt diet that's rich in fruits, vegetables and whole grains". Granted it doesn't say 'don't eat meat' but it doesn't include any in that list (specifically) either.
Then we have the pollution (and it's negative impact on us), the use of resources (and it's negative impact on us), the risk of zoonotic diseases (and their negative impact on us). Aren't we currently under a 'bird flu' lockdown?
But I get how people who are probably addicted to high fat foods like cheese might find it difficult to come off them, even if only to stop some animals they never see from suffering (casomorphins trigger dopamine production so fuel demand) and just carry on sucking up the lush green fields lies//// marketing. Shame it's not working as well these days and milk consumption is steadily falling in many countries ...
The more I think and talk about it all the more the whole mess frustrates and saddens me ... but as a real animal lover I can no longer look the other way ... ;-(
No, we are suburbanites having to exist on what we have to hand, at the time.
Jainism would go down like a bag of wet sick in Siberia or anywhere in the Northern tundra where humans rely on deer to eat shit they cant and turn it into steaks that they can, Same goes for the fishermen of Greenland and the arctic seas.
In short all this ,moral crap is only relevant if you are living in western suburban fantasy land, but then of course, you are...
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