Long lashing wire for aerial fixing

Hi,

I just got a large lashing kit from TLC

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however I now realise the 5m of lashing wire (hawser wire...i think it's called...) isn't quite long enough. Any idea where I can buy just the lashing wire from?

Cheers Dan

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Dan
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B&Q have suitable stuff amongst their hardware - ropes, chain etc.

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Frank Erskine

On 16 May, 15:13, Frank Erskine wrote: dea where I can buy just the lashing wire from?

Really? I never thought it would be that easy...thanks!

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Dan

Thanks....didn't expect to be able to pick it up from the sheds...I should have checked there first.

Cheers Dan

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SJP

Hmmmn, I'm not so sure, I think lashing wire is special (well, different anyway) in that you just loop it through a bracket, twist it back on (and around) itself and it will hold. I'm not sure that either regular wire rope or catenary wire will do the same self gripping job. I stand to be corrected but TV tech groups might have that specialist knowledge, uk.tech.digital-tv springs to mind but there may be a better choice.

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fred

I agree with you Fred.

I was surprised to see the suggestion that B&Q held stock. I have never seen it in our local store.

I'm sure that you could cobble something together using wire and clamps from B&Q but this would be expensive and involve extra work.

To the OP, it is possible to splice two cables together without weakening the cable but this has to be a proper splice and not a simple twist/knot sort of thing. It is easy to do but hard to describe in words! I have looked on Google but I can't find a reference.

Basically, it needs the two cables splayed out by, say, a foot or more and put end to end so that the individual cores are accessible. Take one core and wrap it tightly around the opposite *cable* five or six times then cut off excess. Do the same with one of the cores from the opposite cable. By now you will have made a joint, carry on doing this with alternate wires, each wrap being done tightly and close to the adjacent wrap. Now it will become clear why so much of the cable had to be splayed out!

As I said, easier to do than describe!

HTH

Steve

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Steve

=================================== That sounds very much like fencing (or 'baling') wire:

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so, I saw the same in B&Q today.

Cic.

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Cicero

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it's only 5m so the o/p may still need a join. I don't know the right way to join these but wire rope grips should do the job. The smaller sizes of galvanized grips are mis-described on the CPC site as wire rope.

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fred

================================== Are you sure that *stranded* wire will hold just by being bent and twisted back on itself? Usually it needs some kind of clamp or even an 'eye splice'. Is this the same (under a different name) as 'lashing wire'?

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Cicero

The correct stuff is multi-strand and made from pretty soft steel so it can be twisted easily. It also has heavy plating to help prevent the onset of rust.

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Dave Plowman (News)

I had my doubts too but after seeing it close up on a roof and hearing it spoken about on the digital-tv group I do believe it is self gripping when looped back and twisted correctly. Take a look at the pic in the CPC link and you'll see it has a very specific tight twist which I believe is the key. It does sort of make sense as it removes the need for too many tools and fiddly operations on the rooftop.

And no it's not catenary wire.

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fred

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Thanks for the explanation, I'll take your word for the special twist. I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking for, but at least I now know what 'lashing wire' is used for. Most of the stranded wire ropes I've seen have a life of their own with every loose strand very stiff, needle-sharp and determined to go its own way - mostly into my fingers.

Cic.

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Cicero

There is a preferred way of attaching stranded wire to a thimble, taking each strand back around the wire to give a tapered and very strong result - have a look at a staywire attached to a BT "telegraph" pole with an assymetrical load - much more strain than say a 10-ele Yagi telly aerial.

It could be that people are only interested nowadays in low-tech "easy" solutions...

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Frank Erskine

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