Lockdown

have that archived that by banning entry to the country of ALL foreigners

something that we seem reluctant to consider

tim

London, which is ahead of most of the rest of this country, is showing an encouraging trend as regards new hospital admissions. Things will be a lot clearer in a week's time. But total numbers in hospital will rather obviously go up, as will deaths. As these lag admissions.

but even an infection rate of less than 1 doesn't make it die out

That's what people are not understanding

tim

You've failed to understand the progress of this varies by area in the UK? Same as in other countries?

And if everyone in London dies, who is going to provide for you?

But then you never could see beyond the end of your nose...

when we have a test for immunity

which could be 18 months away

all of the "next couple of months" predictions are wishful thinking

the same wishful thinking that sees people looking at booking a foreign summer holiday this year.

tim

that's because snake oil salesmen keep on telling us they have one

which so far, none of them have been

tim

They can test for anti-bodies now, just not quickly on a fast turn around / rapid scale.

Just as they've been able to test for the infection, just not on a large/quick turn around scale.

The 'existing' tests are slow, in simple terms, require skills etc. What they are looking for is rapid, 'low skill', ideally low cost test which is also reliable enough it is useful. By 'low skill' I don't mean to demean, for example, the staff who may well administer any test, simply that is it simple- perhaps like a home pregnancy test but using blood, rather than requiring multiple stages etc, any one of which, if not just correct, could cause an error.

Yes. I noted that. Things like schools were shut down at different times across the UK. Not quite sure how it would cause problems to do it in the reverse. In a planned rather than panic way.

Except with all the conspiracy types, of course.

My guess is we'll have a treatment for it before a vaccine becomes available.

were they

I thought the date was the same everywhere

tim

That?s never going to happen. In the first world at most something like 30% of those over 60 die even if all the hospitals are massively overloaded and everyone gets no treatment at all and either recover or die. And few of those do much to keep everyone else supplied. Its less than 5% of those under 60.

Those that don?t die.

IIRC, Scotland was earlier in shutting down schools by a matter of days. Despite the virus progressing fastest in the likes of London.

BoJo dithering didn't do us any favours.

We won't need any help if houses become affordable once more.

There is a big difference between shutting schools on a marginally different date where its never going be possible to move your kids to a different school at the other end of the country and relaxing the lockdown to allow the use of camping grounds in some areas where anyone on the country can use them in such a small country.

If prices drop, which is likely, it will be a prime time for Buy to Let.

There won't be money for social housing, nor people to get mortgages, people will be forced to rent.

Those with capital to invest will be ideally placed to buy up cheap property and rent it out.

The Government won't be able to afford to prevent it.

It's down to doubling in 8 days when it was every 5.

I'm glad I don't live in London...

Andy

Unless you also ban entry to all residents as well that is not going to help very much. There is nothing about the virus that stops returning UK citizens catching it.

It wouldn't surprise me if most people in London have already had it.

Someone else who doesn't know London. ;-)

I don't know of anyone personally who has it.