Quite. Much of the meja is still treating it as some sort of political issue. I don't much care for BoJo, and didn't vote Tory. But only a fool would be certain anyone else could have handled things better.
Can you just imagine if it had been Farage? Idolised by so many on here. Following the lead of his master Trump.
And just who are 'they'? In a position to make the rules?
Quite. Including those born there. Since there are idiots everywhere.
Maybe. Had it been done years ago.
You don't get more trained staff and suitable equipment etc within days of pouring in money - no matter how much.
I'm pretty sure once this is over, most will still want the lowest possible taxation etc over decent spending on the NHS. And of course paying our key workers properly. Giving them a a round of applause doesn't hurt the pocket.
Love to be proved wrong.
Will there also be a tendency for there to be fewer cases overall because some family groups will get it but then not be able to pass it on to anyone else so the virus will die out for that group? If all households are isolated from each other, there will be a point at which none of them are still able to pass the virus on to anyone else, even if some of the members of the household suffer and then either recover or die.
But I agree than the main purpose of the lockdown was to spread the load over a longer period of time to allow the NHS to cope.
I think it is more likely that there will be the same number of
*infections* - essentially until we reach 40% who have survived it or have been vaccinated whatever - , but that the *severity* of the infection as well as the rate over time will be reduced with lockdown.That is, it will be a slower *and* *less severe* peak towards herd immunity.
That was its purpose but I am thinking that it may well have several other unintended consequences.
- fewer people will get *seriously* ill from it
- fewer people will get colds and other unrelated illnesses spread by similar means
- fewer people will get respiratory diseases as vehicle pollution comes down. - road traffic accidents will be down. - people will realise that actually working from home works, as does online shopping. And they will never go back to the same level. - people will realise that the main advantage of *going out* to work is to get away from the spouse and kids.
They're probably lying anyway.
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They lied at the beginning so why not now?
If people are quarantined for long enough, will there be anyone left who can still infect anyone else? Even without artificially-induced antibodies via a vaccination. Maybe to achieve this would require too long a lockdown.
Spike thinks he advises the Government (seriously).
you really think that whatever we are told, will be true?
tim
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I agree
anybody who thinks that we can get back to anything approaching normal in
2-4 weeks is an idiottim
why?
how are you going to stop leakage across a boundary if rules are different each side of it?
and is it really fair to say that residents of Manchester can go on leisure trips to the Pennines but residents of Leeds can't
tim
me neither
except when I go shopping
and I can't avoid going shopping
One delivery of online grocery a month (even if I were on the qualified list) simply isn't sufficient to keep fresh goods topped up
tim
It seems that some did, yes
IMHO they are idiots, but the do exists
tim
except that no amount of money can magic up:
new buildings new equipment extra trained staff
in days
It's the old, expecting 9 women to make a baby in a month trick
tim
Yep
there's already demands by idiots for tax cuts to "stimulate" the economy when this is over
what when we really need is for tax increases to help fund sufficient infrastructure for next time
tim
I'm not alone in thinking you are wrong here.
The isolation policy's best result is one of trying to make the virus die out. The trick will be not reopening our doors to outside risks of re-infection too soon.
tim
Back in the 1950s we had an American student for a year. Since it took 5 days to get home and 5 days to get back, he spent the Christmas holidays in the UK. He stayed with us over New Year. The newspaper was full of the New Year Honours list and he asked what this was, so I explained. "What a wonderful idea." he said " Back home we have to give them money!"
Andy Brown
*@VoteAndyBrown*Flight IB3166 from Madrid has just landed at Heathrow - the passengers will shortly be walking out of the airport without any meaningful checks and travelling across the UK. Heathrow says it is following government guidelines. We must therefore blame the government.
They will ease restrictions when they are certain the local NHS can cope.
Why I said ease. Not abolish.
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