Leaving valuables in the car safely?

On 25/10/2018 11:14, Nick Odell wrote:

My sanity mainly.
I've worked too hard for too long to lightly put up with these ####s just helping their self to my gear.
I know. I'm doomed.
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On 25/10/2018 13:05, R D S wrote:

The gear is replaceable the *data* is not.

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On 25/10/2018 11:14, Nick Odell wrote:

I simply dont keep any imporatnt data on any computer EXCEPT my headless boring as shit looks like a 15 year old XP chassis headless server
The operatinal data I need - passwords and the like - are held on the desktop but are password protected in an encrypted format. IF they are important. Lodas of saved logins to te likes of ebay and paypal of cpurse but agaim loss of the desktop would be 'instant repasswording; across all my sites.
As long as they dont take the server, everything is recoverable. I assume my smartphone WILL be stolen at some point. Ok a lot of phone numbers and satnav destinations on it as well as my email account logins, and some wifi logins.
But nothing else. And I can change those (login passwords) in minutes
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On 25/10/2018 10:02, R D S wrote:

If your laptop has a Kensington lock point I'd be inclined to fix that to a secure point inside the boot. You might need to fit an eyebolt or similar.
With modern cloud-based stuff even if you keep the data on the hard drive it's not so difficult to recover from a theft these days provided you keep "My Documents" backed up at home.
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On 25/10/2018 10:34, newshound wrote:

Plenty of Youtube videos showing how to remove Kensington type locks is seconds.
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That's one good reason my my son never locks his car, saves broken windows - seriously. Most modern cars now have reasonably effective immobilisers so it's difficult to drive them away without the key and (usually) its transducer.
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On 25/10/2018 10:35, Chris Green wrote:

They don't usually check the car is unlocked. They just automatically assume that it is locked and smash the window
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Mine locks itself anyway after a couple of minutes if you forget.
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 10:35:59 +0100, Chris Green wrote:

Sadly, thick thieves still break the windows :(
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Not the case any more alas. Once they have access to the diagnostic port they can bypass the security systems.
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On 25/10/2018 13:08, Tim+ wrote:

Depends on the car.

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On 25/10/2018 13:55, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

As seen in a documentary, for high value cars the thieves bring their own ECU to replace the one fitted to the car.
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Simply swapping the ECU doesn't normally work. It has to be coded too. Rather outside the scope of most car thieves. But they might be able to drive a recovery vehicle. Or more likely clone the 'key' with keyless entry systems.
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:11:22 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Or simply wait until the car is unlocked, and put a gun to the drivers head and invite them to make a gift of the car ?
There's only so much you can do before you realise why they sell insurance.
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Cloning the key's wireless which unlocks the doors doesn't clone the transducer which has to be present for the car to start - or at least it does with our cheap Citroens.
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 16:40:31 +0100, Chris Green wrote:

Of course if a car can't be stolen as a car, it can always be stolen and broken into highly profitable spares ...
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Think a complete car is worth rather more in some countries. And it would seem less risky for the thieves.
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Not really sure about these keyless types. Neighbour's new Disco which had this was stolen and never recovered from outside their house. They were told the 'key' had been cloned. So now keep the one for the new replacement in some form of special safe.
My rather older car certainly has a chip in the key which communicates with another in the steering lock - totally separate from the remote central locking. So sort of three independent anti-theft thingies in the key.
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On 25/10/2018 19:24, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

The usual advice is to buy a Crooklock.
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Yes - they have one of those too. But a big yellow thing which covers the steering wheel. Not always fitted, though. Which is the problem with something that needs your action to work.
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