Is there a law gainst this?

Apr 22, 2018 58 Replies

Well for me it is hard to opt in, as the buttons are not visually presented obviously. I know they did it just prior to Christmas as there were others who had had the same issue. It is not illegal to give you something for nothing. However when the law changes it will have to be opt in not opt out of the paying service. As I say, for some people who seem to live on Amazon its probably a big saving in the long run, but not for the occasional buyer. Brian

A variety of places. Google and the Shopping tab usually work, and it ends up being just the same few suppliers. For e-books, usually Google Play (and no DRM to speak of).

never pay to save money .....

I have been signed up TWICE ....is this a record ?

Do you have an Amazon Echo or Echo dot etc? In the alexa app you will find it is very easy to accidentally sign up for prime or music unlimited both of which are paid services. I would only mention this as mobile users often get caught due to the way they swipe and click and then suddenly there is an extra option they do not notice. Once again the blind can hear the screenreader and take steps to avoid this. About a week ago there was a box popping up on Amazon on the way to checkout about insurance. a totally unneeded thing and it needed to be dismissed carefully as there was a paid opt in checkbox on it. I see that has gone now, maybe somebody complained. No the marketers are always trying to con you, but they would call it something else of course.. grin. Brian

Well its not that bad. I hate ebay, and many many sites are totally inaccessible to blind users, and to me normally, Amazon have been fair and helpful when I contact them or their sellers. If you decided every time you saw an advert down the high street and buy whatever then you would be a little mad. I've been to many shops where they have given me a free gift but I've always enquired if there are strings attached and sometimes there is, read the small print. which I get them to do if I might be interested of course!

Brian

Really? I don't see it that way, but it depends on how often you go in and whether you read your emails or not. Brian

It is. I did. Tried it for a year to see if it was worth the money. it isn't.

Bastards.

Well ccleaner, avg and Avast are all run by the same crowd now. The one annoying thing is that I have unclicky on my machine and it has helped a lot with why not install this overbloated heap of crap with ccleaner installers, but they have craftily changed it now so you get no choice till the installer for whatever it is loads in and by then its tentacles are in. Its usually avast meaning you then need to get avastclean from the avast site to get rid of the tentacles even though its actually not officially installed. My guess is that its monitoring what you are doing maybe to help look for viruses but the fact is for the blind avast and avg are now totally inaccessible unless you turn of protect mode which rather defeats the point don't you think? The blocking routines are the first to be put in and cannot be removed by the uninstaller, and they stop screenreaders hooking in to the code as they brand this as malicious.#

Bloody vandals! Brian

Prime isn't worth having in the UK. It's mainly aimed at the US, where deliveries routinely take over a week.

This is where unclicky comes into its own, but as I say, many people now seem to have realised this program unclicks checkboxes in a running installer so make the softwareautomatically launch a new one where its buttons not check boxes that are used. brian

They did last toime.

This time they sent some emails saying 'welcome to prime' so I said WTF? and they had signed me up. I cancelled immediately

Well, two points. Use the portable version of ccleaner, you can download this and manually move the files after an unzip Also, I have recently noticed Filehippo.com normally my first port of call, has started using ad blocker blocking, ie, if you use their ever so helpful file checker and see if there are updates to software you have on the machine, if an ad blocker is active the program list will not be shown. You have to disable the blocker and do a page refresh, at which point you do get a couple of adverts and probably a video advert that auto starts while you are trying, in my cancel, to hear the screenreader to get the right download link. really irritating, then when done you have to switch the ad blocker on again to deal with the rest of the web. If web sites actually only showed adverts that were not intrusive, then fine, but the epidemic has now reached such proportions that the forest is buried by many more forests so finding an individual tree, the one you wanted too sit under is not possible so folk vote with their mouse and go somewhere else. Cnet is like this, Filehippo at least seem to keep adverts in sensible boxes labelled advertisement. Brian

Oy, I know Clive sSinclair, so be careful, he was I feel and still is, pretty naive in thinking that things will go how his logic determines they will, and often the bankers and other reptiles in the industry have taken advantage of this. He really does have no knowledge about business. Typical boffin in fact.

brian

I've not had this experience at all. Its always up front what you need to get free delivery, you either need to make up the cost of the order from that supplier to a certain amount or join prime, its always been this way. What I find odd though is that when you buy a cd, for example some get added to the free mp3 list and can be played via an echo, but others cannot, I suppose it depends on the deal with the supplier, but here does not seem to be logic to it at all. I thus have a huge list of Shires, Enya, and a few others but no Kate bush or old seekers tracks. Brian

Even that wouldn't be a problem for most things I order.

Me neither, since I am quite happy to wait for the vast majority of stuff I order.

I'm still using them for the low hassle/reliable delivery aspect. The problem is, a new supplier is like a lottery. The few suppliers I know well who use DPD and have clear "order by X hours and we'll ship today" get my business.

But too many times a new supplier is a lucky dip - ship in a few days when they can be bothered, uses Yodel or 2nd class post...

The AA cunningly sign you up to a recurring debit agreement if you apply for and pay for car insurance on-line. They have really carefully hidden that tick-box.

My impression of uber is that they are not very careful at all.

Nick

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