iPad 2

[charles]

Boots sell them

[dennis]

They don't, but windows runs a bit slow on 120MHz pentiums with 48MB RAM like the one I used to run my Kodak APS scanner.

Because it doesn't need 2GB of RAM like win8 did and most people wouldn't be happy with one much slower. It actually runs quite well on much less than that but you also want to run some applications on the OS.

[dennis]

The OS has been getting more responsive since win10 was introduced. Applications, in general, run at the same speed. Just shows that a bit of time invested in optimising stuff still works.

[whisky-dave]

a bit slow in what way ?

Not according to M$

Processor. 1 gigahertz (GHz)* or faster with support for PAE, NX, and SSE2 RAM. 1 gigabyte (GB) (32-bit) or 2 GB (64-bit)

But that doesnlt explain why computers appear to slow down does it.

[Tim+]

If you have the patience. ;-). Seriously, once you?ve used one of the newer iPads you?ll never want to use an iPad 2 again.

Tim

[Tim+]

Given the low screen resolution (by modern standards) and sluggish performance I would absolutely agree that it?s not worth spending money on.

If it?s a software glitch or just needs a new cable or charger, fair enough if the owner was still finding it useful but if they can afford a newer one it would be far smarter use of his/her money.

Tim

[whisky-dave]

So do lots of places, but that doesn't mean I'll have one as I have little use for them, but I have punk friends so safety pins are readily found than toothpicks ;-)

You're like one of my students that asked me for a black and white golfing umbrella and was suprise I didn't hand him one there and then. Yesterday a phone call told me that a courier had deliverd my TV to the wrong building (estates) and she appologised and would get it sent over to me. But I hadn't ordered a TV, it was a Gym Mat - Crash Mat - Exercise Mat that was ordered.

[Brian Gaff]

I agree but there you go. I'd like it to be different myself. I still have a 1960s amplifier working doubles as a room heater in the winter. Brian

[James M Stewart]

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Yes. Should have said that has been tried and doesn't work. As has a different power lead etc.

What I'm considering - as it's scrap anyway - is opening it up and powering it off my bench top supply. Thinking it may be the power management side which has failed. Just to recover the data on it. But asking my Apple using pals, they all go on about clouds and things. I was hoping the data could be transferred to a DVD.

[Martin Brown]

Looking for their data on the iCloud would be the first thing to try though - then they can buy a nice shiny new one for Christmas and download their stuff back onto it from the cloud. Some antique software may not work on the new model - not sure how Apple manages that.

I know that my ancient one grumbles at me that it hasn't been backed up when it is woken from slumber. It needs to be plugged in on charge and connected to the internet for an iCloud backup to run.

It is also worth trying to mount the iPad as a USB media device on a PC using the interconnect lead. It is a long shot if the power supply internals are fried but it might be preferable to fighting your way in. One other possibility is that the display backlight has failed.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Not knowing the least thing about Apple products, if you could get it recognised as a USB device by a PC, could you lift the data from it to CD, etc, which could later be transferred back to a new iPad?

There is no question of this old one ever being used again. Data recovery from it is the only important bit. I assume the owner had looked on their cloud or whatever if they have one. (As I said, Apple is totally foreign to me. Everyone who has one raves about it - but doesn't seem to know much about how they work. ;-))

[Martin Brown]

In many ways that is Apple's selling point - you don't need to understand how they work to use one. They just do.

By comparison Mickeysoft's offerings are bug ridden bloatware.

[whisky-dave]

Not really, but it depends on the data, you can back up and ipad to a PC or Mac or the cloud (if you have enough apple cloud storage). Then with your new ipad when promted type in your apple ID and then the new ipad will download all the data from your backup whether it's from the clo ud or computer. If the ipd2 is faulty and you have no backup there's little chance of getti ng the data off it, but it does depend what is or isn't working on the ipad

2. if teh iPad isn't booting up I;d say there's no chance of getting the data off.

That's the key to why apple products are popular you don't need to know how they work just that they do. People that drive don't have to know how an i ntenal combustion engine works or how the differntail works, thiose that go on planes don't need to know how they manage to stay in the air.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

So this one failing is unique, then? ;-)

Quite possibly. But the two Apple using friends I asked about this problem yesterday seemed to think the only way to backup data on an iPad was to a 'cloud' somewhere. If that is the case, I'm happy to use 'bug ridden bloatware'

[whisky-dave]

No more than any other device would do.

But they are wrong, perhaps they don't own computers if that is the case then they are correct, they can't back-up to anywhere other than a cloud.

How do you back it up ?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Both have iPhones (never put them down) and Apple laptops.

Aren't you a university tech? And need to ask how to backup data without going online? No wonder the education system is in such a mess.

[whisky-dave]

Do they backup their phones, I doubt it, I don't usually bother haven't don e so for 3 months now. Where do andriod or blackberry or M$ users back up t heir phones ?

I know how to back up data, but I don't know how to connect an adndriod pho ne to a hard disc.

We don't back up peoples phones, and I don't know how to backup an andriod device as I haven't one. I;'m not supose to back up studetns devices to our servers either I dn;t have the passwords needed, htye donl;t even have a s ystem for backing up Macs to their servers, so I just use Time Machine and email when I need to.

How do you back up an andriod phone ?

seems you need 3rd party software that doens;t run on the Mac.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

If you plug my Samsung into my PC with a USB lead it sees the memory card like any other storage device.

I have MyPhoneExplorer on phone and PC. Allows you to backup everything on the phone easily, via Wi-Fi or cable. And makes editing the contact list etc much easier using a proper keyboard.

[Another John]

Not sure if anyone else said this .... both my old iPod, and my old iPad

2 will appear dead, black screen etc., if the battery is drained completely. You have to have the charger plugged in for some minutes, before the "Charging" icon appears, and shortly after that normal service is resumed.

J.