Ideas for fireplace

Jan 31, 2011 12 Replies

Hi all,



I'm after some artistic ideas, re my fireplace:


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know I'll get a million suggestions, but that's fine... They will give me some inspiration.



It's a tight little setup - nowt could be done other that have the fire forward of the opening which I didn't want (it's sort of in front of the main doorway).



So - I need to present that ugly little hole a bit better - frame it off if you like.



SWMBO has decreed that we will have a mantle shelf of solid wood "invisibly" fixed to the wall fairly high over the fire - no problem with that - I like it. Let's assume the shelf will be most of or even the full width of the breast...



Happy to paint the top half of the breast - but what for the bottom?



So far:


1) I suggested a small cast iron frame style surround - fairly flat - they have old rusty ones down the road that would clean up nice - but she does not approve...


2) Run a set of fireplace tiles round. Maybe.


3) (Her suggestion) tile the whole area under the shelf. Could work. She has suggested rough stonework but in this house, that will probably look a tad fake. I've suggested raw brick tiles, following the underlying structure (which I've seen - there's a "soldier brick flat-arch" (not sure if that's the right name) over the opening - I rather like the idea of presenting all of this visually on the surface. Before you say, the underlying bricks are too crap visually to present in the buff...

She doesn't like this.



So I wondered if anyone has seen other ways of dressing a fireplace that has a hint of "old" but not "mediaeval" - this is a 1950's house so too "antique" would be a bit crass.



Wood is out that close to the opening as it gets damned hot (not to mention regs).



The inside is rough rendered with lime render and whitewashed - needs another coat as the fire fitting dirtied it up.



I did even wonder about dressing some angle iron as a frame - angle grinder to wibble the edges or something funky, then paint it stove black.



I don't know - I'm not very good at arty stuff!



All ideas, not matter how wacky appreciated :)



Cheers



Tim


If tiles take them round the sides of the chimney breast; make it 3D rather than a funny little hole in what looks like a flat wall. Perhaps take the shelf round the sides too, or at least a decorative moulded edge to the shelf that continues round the sides.

djc ( snipped-for-privacy@bembo.invalid) wibbled on Monday 31 January 2011 22:06:

Hi,

Did you mean take the tiles round inside or the outside? [1]

Wood - outside obviously.

I like the concept - "3D"... Now, to the left of the breast will be a sink - so having a half depth continuation of the shelf would make a lot sense - somewhere to put a put the the washing up brushes etc. The right has the fridge - but there is a foot wide gap there that is available for arty/storage purposes - and it is an idea niche for the steps - so running a shelf round there would be at the right height.

Or it might be a bit "cluttered" and I might to better to "box" the storage in (slim cupboard door or something). But the 3D could be assymetric - left side only, with just a hint to the right.

I'll have to try some stuff with sketchup but it has broadened the options somewhat.

It's tricky because I have the space I have and function is decided before form in our house...

I was going to tile the left side of the breast "all kitchen" but I could wrap the fronting tiles round one tile - that would provide some interesting contrast and definition.

[1] If I find myself using any tiles that are available in l-shaped external corner format, I could wrap the tiles a couple of inches into the fireplace, if they and the adhesive are heatproof - I think I' best use proper cement adhesive, but that might provide a 3D into the hole without impeding the air gap around the stove.

In an ideal world, the hole would be 12" wider for that stove, but that would have required a lot of work to re-lintel the opening - so we make do with what we have...

For the layout of the room it actually looks OK - it looks worse in the photos. The hole is ragged and bare, and my gut says it will shape up nicely if I get the framing right :)

But thanks for that most excellent suggestion - exactly the sort of lateral thinking I'm after :)

Cheers

Tim

Personally I would go with a wooden mantle over as agreed by the management, but also go for some wooden uprights running hearth to underside of the mantle, and set back from the openening about 6" or so. Creating a sort of "Pi" layout. You could tile all the space around the opening and inside the uprights to make it look more like a fire surround rather than just something planted on. Being setback from the opening will stop it getting too hot.

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Where the ... bit is tiles. The wood uprights I would corbel out in thickness a little at the bottom, and a bit more at the top. So side on you get:

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John Rumm ( snipped-for-privacy@nowhere.null) wibbled on Monday 31 January 2011

23:12:

I like that - classic and simple. SWMBO acceptance increasing.

I would do them out of some lumpy bare wood and funk them up (or similar) wiht a router.

Cheers

Tim

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struck lucky by finding the oak surround at the local dump! £10 to stig and it was mine :-)

Mike

In message , Tim Watts writes

Hmm.. It is a bit of a functional mouse hole:-)

I'll see if I can get some photos up of ours. One started off as an 18" fire opening in what turned out to be a Victorian range space.

An imitation Bressemer beam might meet her approval. Z section fabricated out of 30mm or so Oak. Top for projecting mantle, vertical recessed into render and the bottom, short and tucked into the opening.

I suspect visual appearance needs to be closer to what might be expected in your vintage of house. We successfully took out an awful tiled panoramic fireplace from an Edwardian house and replaced with a redbrick, floor to ceiling facade. Not all *improvements* gel with the

*ambience* of the rest of the house:-)

regards

MuddyMike ( snipped-for-privacy@mattishall.org.uk) wibbled on Tuesday 01 February 2011

08:41:

That is seriously nice!

So he's branching out now, then....

I suppose he needs the money now he's been sacked. ;-)

Sadly our Stig has also been sacked now. The dump, sorry refuse recycling centre, is now bristling with security cameras and run by staff who won't allow anything out of the gate:-) I also have to have a pass now to go in with my 40 year old soft top Land Rover as they class it as commercial!

I needed about 5 yards of 18 inch wide netting a few months ago and whilst dumping some rubble the guy with the car next to me was dumping an unused roll which must have had 20 yards on it. I said to him he should throw it into my car instead of the skip, but the staff would not have it. They insisted that having been seen coming out of a car by the camera they would be sacked if they allowed it out of the yard.

Mike

My suggestion would be either Delft tiles inside and around the recess, or a cast iron surround of a suitable size, via architectural antiques at your friendly eBay. I've re-read what you wrote and see that the latter suggestion has already been ruled out. Will continue to ponder.

Cheers Richard

Maybe should have offered the bloke a fiver to put it back in his own car and meet you outside. I've given up trying to take things at our tip since one of the staff had a word with me after I removed a dismantled pine table from the wood skip. He was very apologetic and let me take it, and some refurbishment later it now sits in our kitchen.

Then again if it was easier I'd be up there all day with my trailer, claiming wood for the stove I'm putting in this year.

Cheers Richard

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My suggestion is to ignore what I said, and do what he said .

cheers Richard

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