Can someone, knowledgeable about the heating oil wholesale distribution business tell me if Liverpool gets its heating oil through the overland pipeline network, or by coastal tanker to one of the Mersey ports ?
I can do without the replies from comedians, knowitalls who nevertheless don't answer the question, or suggestions to look it up on Google (as if I hadn't tried the obvious).
Jim Hawkins
I think you'll discover that attempting to discover such information might attract attention from the security services.
I'm not interested in the storage locations or sizes, or anything else about them - just how the stuff gets to the Liverpool area - by pipe or by sea ?
I will happily admit that this is not a 100% definitive answer. But there is, I feel a bit of a hint in this web page:
"We are located in a convenient location in Liverpool Docks
Quayfuels Ltd Regent Road Liverpool Merseyside L5 9TF
0151 207 5155"In case you wish to have a look here is a Google link:
I suggest that you ring them up and ask them.
(I have NO knowledge of the heating oil wholesale distribution business.)
Apologies if a 'know all' has said this already, but I thought the pipeline network was used for petrol, diesel and aviation fuel only.
Well Wiki knows it all:
UKOP transports 7.5 million tonnes of mixed products each year distributed to major oil terminals at Buncefield and Kingsbury with spurs to Northampton and Nottingham. UKOP now draws its products from Shell Stanlow [3] in the north and Petroplus Coryton [4] in the south, with smaller volumes from tankage at Shell Haven. UKOP carries two grades of petrol, two grades of kerosene (including Jet A-1) and two grades of gas oil-diesel.
Does one of these products correspond to heating oil? FIIK
"heating oil" can either be 28 sec kerosene or 35 sec gas oil. These days most domestic heating oil is 28 sec kerosene, only older installations burn gas oil (aka red diesel).
So I guess that means "yes"? Or at least, it could.
I that case why is there so much information out on the 'net?
I think you need to narrow the request down a bit. The wikipedia Stanlow entry has loads of information (can your google foo not find that?). But are you asking about how a given local distribution depot is supplied? I should imagine that with Stanlow so close there isn't a need for distribution depots within about 50 miles or so.
Quay Fuels mentioned previously have a few small tanks on their site (street view is handy) but are not distribution depot size. The otherside of the road has a industrial complex with much larger storeage facilties but that appears to be labled United Utilites on the only gate I can find on street view.
You really think that with a name like Jim (Lad) 'Awkins, Avast there, you will not get silly answers? I mean if its by sea you might be gonna raise the Jolly Roger and nab it.
Brian
why not phone up your supplier and ask? Mostly round here it comes by road in tanklers from the nearest refineries.
By road.
heating oil *is* diesel with different additives. And a slighlty different viscosity IIRC. Its nearer to aviation klerosene.
Heating oil used in modern pressure jet boilers is a kerosene not a diesel. Note the use of the word "a"...
The major difference is the viscosity (kero 28 sec, heavy oil (aka "diesel") 35 sec). Any addatives are added at the distribution depots not the refineries, so the heavy oil sent by pipeline, rail or road to a distribution depot could end up as "red" non-road use diesel or "white" road use diesel.
BS 2869 covers the various grades/classes of (some) oils, broadly based on the sulphur content.
In message , Jim Hawkins writes
You might ... but then, they have as much right to answer as anyone else
If you had been arsed to look for yourself, you would have discovered that crude oil is delivered to the Tranmere oil terminal by deep sea tankers. That oil is piped to Stanlow. At Stanlow it is refined and the refinery products are deliverd by road, by pipeline and by coastal tanker to Eastham Oil Terminal and back to the Tranmere oil terminal.
Deliveries are also made by road and coastal tanker to other oil terminals. The UK oil pipeline network is used to transport refinery products to Coryton Oil Refinery in Essex.
As with all of these sorts of business, transport is multi-mode.
Within the Merseyside area deliveries to fuel distributors are mostly by road from Stanlow to the individual fuel distributors premises.
En el artículo , Dave Liquorice escribió:
H'm. Interesting. Fire at Stanlow yesterday:
One wonders if there's a connection between the cost cutting needed to turn the refinery into profit and the fire...
En el artículo , polygonum escribió:
The Eastham and Tranmere Oil Terminals are very close to Stanlow.
But it is a trivial matter to convert to burning diesel, so easily done for single-fuel sites, like a farm for instance.
As much ability to answer anyway.
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