Getting to Walks

Some of us like to get away from roads though...

:-)

Why don't you just walk to the local pub & save all those problems?

So where did it take you? (my neck of the woods, I'm just curious :-) )

I fail to understand why anyone believes in the things. They all "lie" and will forever. Learn what geography is and a knowledge of directions.Depart from the Chattering Class and get a life?

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You won't see much change there. Getting the route of the major road wrong is almost routine with Garmin. I am beginning to wonder if, underneath all the the superficial differences, there is just one basic software product.

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About a mile before Stainforth, by Sannet Hall Farm, I turned left. The first of the silent junctions was just a mile and a half further on and the second (by Higher Tren House Farm) a similar distance further on. On the map that second junction is a crossroads rather than a Y and not shaped as I remembered it as a straight on right turn (IYSWIM). From there the route went Malham, Airton, Eshton, Gargrave. A mixture of single track and just about single carriageway roads and by no means as bad as the worst of the roads I have been routed along in the wilds of Wales.

From Sannet Hall Farm to Gargrave this way the distance is 12.8 miles. Via Settle and the A65 it is 15.5 miles.

I have to say in defence of Sat Navs that in general it has proved a boon. Navigating while driving alone on minor roads in unfamilar territory can be a nightmare with a paper map. What is infuriating is where an extra few miles can save 10s of minutes as well as avoiding the added stress of for ever driving round blind bends.

good training.

I think the underlying problems come from the mapping. And there are only two main sources of mapping, one of which - TeleAtlas - is now owned by TomTom. The other - NavTeq - is still independent but supplies mapping to Garmin and several other smaller SatNav manufacturers.

So I think my next SatNav will be from Garmin.

Because, despite all their failings, they are incredibly useful tools.

I always carry a map too.

Sorry, it isn't independent. NavTeq is owned by Nokia.

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Thanks for that Dave.

BTW are you the Dave Pickles I met on a uk.rec.walking meet some years ago? If so well hello again.

Indeed so, and hello.

Dave

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A very strange comment to make!

I started using sat nav a number of years before it was actually combined into one unit. I started with a home made receiver plugged into a laptop which carried the maps - at which time you could buy portable units, but they only provided you with a lat/long - not a map.

It was wonderful to be relieved of the duty of both driving and trying to navigate. When the small sat nav's came out with a built in map, search facilities, directions and a small screen - I bought one. I have used it (still use the same one) almost exclusively and ignoring the paper maps. I now have three sat nav's, one fitted to each of my vehicles I make very good use of them.

I was brought up on paper maps, I am very capable of working out road routes, I am very capable of using OS maps and a compass - but I choose to use sat nav as my first choice.

In my local pub, my _son_ says _he_ feels old. The next one along is a _great_ place to get advice on fixing your motorbike. Next after that has giant-screen footie...

I really must move to a different area!

Andy