Getting rid of a piano.

Aug 25, 2008 137 Replies

Well, no. I don't suppose they'd know how to switch it on, or Maud (the late Daphne Heard) would have used the instructions to light the boiler. But maybe they would have preferred a tuned electric piano to the average village hall instrument, which I don't imagine met with their approval very frequently.

Owain

I'm pretty sure he knows that's silly.

But since I attach no importance to the torque output of an engine (I care about power output, power spread, and efficiency) I've never bothered to work out what units he means.

Andy

Believe it or not I have played Dudley town hall ...

over 30 years ago

guitar, not piano, though

Fascinating sentence. I think I can guess what you mean but the concept of non-acoustic sound is quite interesting!

Andy

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Signal saying something like:

They sound bugger all like pianos, I know that much.

I can imagine the hall being used by a youth group the night before and the keyboard being left on Calypso Rock or some such setting. Dr Evadne would be transposing fit to burst a girdle.

Owain

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part of £10k I should hope it does sound/feel like the proper job. :¬)

Not much point using an out-of-tune piano ( aka a Paino ), they'd be better off without it - and the paper bag over the head gag would fall a bit flat without a Joanna.

I can, mainly because I've stood barely 12 feet away from Elton while he played a digital piano at one of my gigs. Don't recall what make it was - but to be honest I wasn't really paying much attention to the gear. I know he's not averse to playing a Fender Rhodes either.

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Would have made an excellent episode for their radio show though!

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Dudley town hall - what else ?

Funny that - that's pretty much what was said of the first pianos in the early 18th century. It wasn't until the 1760s that the concept gained any real sort of acceptance.

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It's called a 'rest' ;)

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They don't burn as long either.

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Hilda: Heavens Evadne, what on EARTH is that dreadful sound m'dear?

Evadne: It says here...."Hammond"

Hilda: Eh m'dear, wassat? Gammon? Gammon?? I always said you were ham-fisted m'dear.

Evandne: Yes, very droll, thank you. No, not gammon, Hammond - I believe it's some kind of organ.

Hilda: Spleen, I'll be bound.

Evadne: I hope I didn't hear what I thought I just I heard!

Hilda: If you can't make it sound any different that's precisely what the audience will be saying. Try pressing a few buttons.

Evadne: Well, if you insist

Together: Ahh, Bach!

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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Stephen Howard saying something like:

You got that right. I not-so-fondly recall, as a kid, struggling away on a succession of uprights in shiny brown wood, wrestling noises from them and hoping they would magically fall to pieces so I could go home. Ye gods, what I would have given then for a digital piano - even a Casio keyboard - what joyful sounds could have been made to squawk from it.

By the time they appeared, the dream was dead.

actually, that can all be synthesised: nobody can be bothered.

All the above are simple resontaors - a lot of them to be sure, but nothing a good bit of software and a few DSPS couldn't handle.

Exactly; wehn it comes to duplicating te soumd of a bity opf cast iron and some felt and bits of wood and teh a;bert hall, its cheaper to hire a sodding grand and an engineer and the albert hall than spend a year working out te major resonances in t above and duplicating them.

Nevertheless, it can be done. I made a remarkably good 'Leslie' speaker out of an all pass phase shifter and a delay line once..enough to show me that a DSP approached based on the above could certainly simulate a variety of rooms and musical instrument soundboxes. Rooms are not that hard to do either with various reverberators, but nothing on the market I have heard is actually that good.

I even worked out te way to do it. Take your piano, hit it sharply with a hammer, and do a time domain analysis, and approximate with N delay lines and phase shifters, and you have a reverberant structure that is essentially your piano. Do it with soft and loud pedals on and of, and you have the response you want. Do it in a room and you have the response of the piano in the room. Now add some basic string tone, and the piano now starts to sound like a proper piano.

Give me 1/4 million and five years, and I'll do it for you..

Ultimately the problems of doing accurate SYNTHESIS were overcome by the art of sampling. Rather like the original ..bugger I forget the name - you know with a million lops of tape running inside it. Think Moody Blues..

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