Garden spotlight.

No. But there's a fair amount of nonconforming electrical stuff out there. Trading standards are often uninterested. Try 12v, if it does nothing it'll be 240. Given its lack of certification you'd best check it meets the requirements before installing.

NT

You may want to check that the earth is actually connected to the casing.

Thanks - and did try 12 v from the bench top supply. A flick on and off from the LEDs suggested mains. Which it is. Earth has continuity to body.

Thought I'd take it apart to fit the longer flex. No chance. The three LEDs are potted in making it impossible. Although likely nice and water tight.

I'm not installing it. And will point out it's at owner's risk. No kids around there, luckily. I do know the mains to the garden is properly protected, though.

There is quite a lot of dodgy similar stuff on ebay. Chances are its mains. Safe enough if you install it sensibly and check it has earth continuity to the metalwork.

Normally just terminate it at waterproof JB close to where it is mounted.

I'm sure that their are many such items on Ebay etc. that have fake marking and ratings.

Probably French then! :-)

Does seem a little odd for it not to have at least some indication of what it runs on. One assumes you can get into it, the lamp type should give things away, I'd imagine. Brian

Oh, so it actually sounds better made than the approved ones!

Does this mean you cannot change the lamp either cos its a non standard one or its just part of the whole unit? Brian

I bought quite a lot from Ebay and more recently Screwfix.

The Ebay ones were not quite like the description as all had a matrix of flat LED chips.

The work I did to every Ebay unit to make it waterproof and "fog free" was ridiculous.

All the units were clearly labelled with the power rating and Voltage, although most carried this on a sheet of A4 in the box.

Personally I would never install anything for a third party without a clear indication of Voltage, power and earthing configuration.

I have a sneaking suspicion that all those lamps I have installed are not legal anyway. Is there not an inspection needed for outside light installation.

Not sure, but there may be something in the regs too. I cannot recollect seeing a paragraph suggesting that if a luminaire has the appropriate coloured cable sticking out the back and it lights up on

AB

After posting before got on with it. Intended replacing the 6 inch lead with a longer one - a JB that close would look silly.

But on removing the front cover, the three LEDs are potted in something like pitch. So it can't be disassembled. Did a solder joint to the longer cable with glue heat shrink to insulate.

I'm not going to install it. Just make it slightly safer for the owner to do so if he wishes - than if he'd extended the cable himself. But I do know it will be RCD protected.

Admirable, and I have little doubt things will be trouble free. It's just that having a small amount of experience with the general public, when the unforseen does happen and the blame game starts, everyone is a "fair target", including those acting in an advisory capacity.

AB