French Door - Heel and Toe

Hi all

Wanted to try to understand something here before I call the builder back. Trying to avoid DIY on this occasion! We had uPVC french doors fitted as part of a refurb earlier this year. After a short period, one of the doors started to catch at the bottom. The guy who fitted them, who turned out to be an obnoxious git sub'd in by the builder, adjusted hinges etc to resolve the problem. Plenty of slamming of doors and generally off-hand behaviour sufficient to upset er indoors! A few months later, the door has "dropped" again and is catching!

My understanding of this heel-and-toe business is that it is a re-packing of the glazing unit in the door frame, when the frame is out of square (by door frame I mean the glazing suround for each moving opener, as opposed to the fixed outer casing). So you may get a situation where the individual door frame has parallelogrammed so far out that it is impossible to achieve the clearance needed around the door and this re-packing excercise is necessary.

Surely once the door has been set up such that it will open and close correctly, any further displacement must either be failing hinges or movement of the outer door casing itself due to lack of fixings?

Anyone clarify this for me please?

TIA

Phil

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TheScullster
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You can check that by measuring the diagonals.

If it was fixed square in the first place it should stay square if fixed properly. If its now out of square for either reason I'd get the builder back in.

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The Medway Handyman

============================= It may be that the glass (assuming DG) is just too heavy for the whole door structure - fixed frame / door frame. A double glazed unit of 5' 6" x 18" weighs about 40lbs / 18kg. If this is the case then you probably need a complete replacement or possibly stronger /additional hinges.

Cic.

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Cicero

I fitted a UPV door set from Screwfix, and the instructions were very clear about being careful the frame was square.

IIRC, it's the bed which is the most important as it supports the lot, while the side and top fixings simply locate it - although these obviously need to be sound.

I did take care, and mine has been fine for a number of years now.

So I'd check the bottom for level and the diagonals to look for distortion.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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scott-tarbet

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