Hi, I am having a conservatory dwarf wall put up my a builder mate of mine. I am having bare brickwork on the inside (i.e. no plastering), But I want to also have flush fitting mains sockets.
Can this be done? if so, how? The wall is current at DPC level,I am asking now, as I figure I have the additional option of precutting the bricks before they are laid.
Cheers.
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:31:31 +0100, "Mark Gillespie" mused:
Same way as you would flush mount any socket, cut the box flush into the surrounding material.
Is there a way of doing this without damaging the bricks? Most of my previous attempts on plastered walls have been pretty poor!!!
Shame nobody has come up with a special tool to do this.. (or perhaps they have.)
And then have a good think as to how you will "invisibly" wire them!
It can be done in the same way as for an already erected wall (e.g. plastered, plasterboard etc.); but you can get a neater job by cutting the bricks during construction.
You can put the metal boxes in during construction as well or afterwards.
It's also a helpful idea to run cables in before insulating materials and if you have doors and want to run cables underneath the openings, that can be done in large diameter flexible conduit before the floor is finished.
Then figure out how you're going to get the cables from any socket into and out of the box cut 'flush into the surrounding material; !
Very simple. The cable goes into the cavity before the conservatory superstructure is built onto the dwarf wall.
Simple. Use the cavity. Run the cables before completing construction.
Subsequent replacement of such cables might be a bit of a challenge... :-)
Drill lots of holes in the area you wish to mount your pattress box. Remove what is left by carefully chiselling out with a chisel/bolster.
Andy.
Piece of cake - attach new to old and pull!
It is as easy as that. I once did somthing similar on a sandstone wall. Cutting out the backbox holes was done with a angle grinder, a hammer and chisel and patience.
Adam
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 18:46:58 +0100, Frank Erskine mused:
And, who gives a frig?
Note that I have observed the smiley. ;)
So don't use rubber and include some lengths of polypropylene cord.
Alternatively, run in lengths of 20 or 25mm flexible conduit and do the wiring in singles.
Or surface wire in MICC.
In message , Andy wrote
As I understand it the wall isn't built yet so just use a back-box instead of a brick and/or cut the adjacent brick to obtain the correct spacing of the mortar joints in the exposed brickwork.
It most certainly can be done, yes.
The key is to get the cables in as you build..if its a cavity wall, no problem.
If it isn't, try embedding them in the mortar lines. This is probably against some regulation.
The backing box can be built in as it it was an odd shaped 'brick'
Why would one ever want to? "subsequent replacement" of ANY wire is a bit of a problem in most houses..requiring floor lifting and the like.
"Subsequent replacement" of main drains requires trenching and digging.
"Subsequent replacement" of foundations requires the same, when underpinning.
Let me let you into a secret: Houses are designed to last,and cables are no exception.
They didn't build the great churches if the mediaeval period saying 'Gee, I wonder how we will replace the gargoyles'
Mmmm... but makes it look a bit industrial..... Better than PVC, I agree.
Yes they have :
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