Fluorescent Tube Ban Sept 2023

Yes, SSE have to replace the lanterns with LEDs when they die. It's a shame since they're all quite new, and I don't suppose all the DALI remote controlled dimming ballasts they're on were particularly cheap either. Those tubes have been unavailable for some time because they're already banned in the EU, and no one bothered continuing to manufacture them just for the little old UK.

Andrew

Andrew

I've got a mercury thermometer - that's got shitloads. So what?

It's all this f****ng ArtStudent™ Boolean Bandar Logic.

"If you eat a 100g of mercury, you will die, so any mercury is dangerous and will kill you"

No, it wont. There is a magical concept, unavailable to the Boolean ArtStudent™ mind, called 'Quantity'...a glass of water will save your life, an ocean full will kill you. Geddit?

It all makes work for the working man to do.

OTOH they were a real improvement on mercury discharge, and I doubt folks had a crystal ball on LED development. LED lighting was widely predicted, but it was one of those things that had long been predicted and still not happened. Then it did.

Its fine to do that, but you need to turn the on off valve that it screws into first. You do that with every new cylinder of gas.

Well, the question is is this all sorts, or just the cfl ones. However its very difficult to get any types now, so I would imagine they will be gone in any case. They are difficult to transport without breaking them. As a matter of interest what is it about them which makes them hazardous? I know a few used mercury in their manufacture, but the basic principle is ionise a gas, produce UV or other radiation which makes the coating give visible light. Brian

I don't see an issue, as surely all it will need is a note that the tubes must be replaced by led versions. You don't want to suddenly send the general public out with their old tubes all at once, it would cause problems for recyclers and put huge stresses on makers, suppliers and those who convert fittings. Brian

Brian Gaff snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote

All of them.

Bullshit with CFLs.

The mercury in them.

In fact they all do.

And they use mercury to do that.

That would not be the government's problem. The edict on heat pumps is impossible to fulfil, but that hasn't bothered the government.

They were, though in our road we had high pressure sodium, and they are not a patch on that.

We didn't have high pressure sodium for very long. Up until about 2004, we had low pressure sodium (a much deeper and dimmer orange glow) Then they replaced the old (well, 1980s) zinc coloured lamp posts with new lime green ones in 2004, but in 2008(?) replaced with CFLs

I think it was in 'Round the Horne' or possibly "Hhhancocks half-hour" where the police cadet is asked 'what is the point, of point duty?' "to stop the traffic, in order to issue them with parking tickets, sir!"

Making your entire nation guilty of a crime is a favourite government game

We've got even more in our mercury barometer.

In the first year general science classes (Nailsea Grammar School, 1962) we were given some mercury to chase around the benches in front of us!

I think generally we do a bit better that that. It's in the USA where road traffic signage and regulations are designed to maximise the chance of your becoming an administrative criminal when travelling from A to B.

I've already posted previously about the legalised banditry that they (or local government, anyway) practice there.

And that's why you are barking mad now |-(

That would be only a tiny amount of vapour. You'd have to be a hatter to become as mad as one.

That was a joke, Joyce.

Doc I keep thinking I'm a little dog. .....How do you feel now? Ruff!