I think most land lines except those for vulnerable people where they need battery backed land lines are being supplied over the internet. Heck Virgin have been doing it for a couple of years, but not mine since its needed to be independent of broadband. I had hoped mobile could be relied upon, but it seems that often when the broadband goes down due to a power cut, so does the local cellular service. Would not one think in this day and age that some redundancy would be built in by supplying such services from another power source? Brian
Fibre. Does the existing phone line stay when the install FTTP?
Oct 12, 2020
Last reply: 5 years ago
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Not on Virgin it doesn't, which was why when my phone went off they told be to use the docsys socket on the box on the router, but, I did not have one and when they looked they had accidentally taken my phone out of service even though I had a vulnerable tag on the account.
Well this is Virgin they never read the account notes!
Brian
Dave Liquorice has brought this to us :
Will 2025 mean the end of my FTTC too?
When FTTP was installed for us, we had very little choice of ISP. Most wouldn't touch us.
A quick check suggests that there are still problems.
We found that many checkers said they could supply fibre, but when they found out it was FTTP only, they would not offer anything. But their websites often continued to make offers based on FTTC. (It is because our copper is so bad, we couldn't get even halfway acceptable broadband until FTTP was laid. Totally unsuitable for FTTC. But the ISPs don't know/understand that.)
that is incorrect. mine was fitted only weeks ago and it has a socket #
here using existing ducts where there is room or digging new ones when there isn't
No. Any ISP can offer you the same. What gets back to the ISP is identical to what gets back via ADSL.
get a better isp
How? When most ISPs simply WILL NOT handle FTTP.
I contacted pretty much every ISP in the UK which handles any fibre. Ended up with a choice of two or three, IIRC. Including BT who were least expensive.
The city link adverting and through the letter box flyers only gave one option for their supply partners.
not if you're looking at your profit margin. Gone are the days of a public service system
Yep, Virgin laid FTTP here a few months after BT had provided FTTC, I suspect only the sports fans have switched ...
Only openreach have any obligation to allow other providers to use their fibre, if it's virgin's fibre you're getting virgin as your ISP, if it's gigaclear's you're getting gigaclear etc ...
No, just the end of analogue voice on your FTTC. Unless Openreach replace it to meet <implausible target for full FTTP>.
(it is possible your FTTP provision could come from someone who isn't OR, of course)
Theo
Well Idnet are no more expensive than BT and handle fttp
Ah. I wasnt aware that virgin were running any new fibre
I can foresee just as with digital TV set top boxes a mains/battery/backup/VOIP/fibremodem/router package being offered My draytek router has a pair of voip ports
it is a regulated market in which legislation and OFCOM determine the obligations on suppliers. OFCOM have said they plan to require providers to take additional measures to provide landline access emergency services in a power cut with IP telephony. I expect the Select Committee(s) will take an interest in that.
Though of course nothing they can do will protect those with no corded phone to plug in when the base station for their cordless phones stops working.
Over Openreach probably, over City Link?
That could just be advertising not telling the whole truth, like Openreach only plugging BT Internet when they install FTTC.
cabinet. >
No thats "digital". It's all the "analogue" PSTN services that are going, so that POTS, ISDN, all the circuit switched stuff.
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