The reader80.eternal-september.org seems to have been completely inaccessible now, since around the 18th. Have they switched it off permanently?
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Eternal server gone ?
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5 years ago
I'm using news.eternal-september.org without any difficulty. Are you aware of the eternal-september.support newsgroup? You can see what's exercising other minds or ask your own questions over there.
Nick
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I cannot understand why anyone is still using this provider. Too mean to pay 10 Euro per year? That's probably less than a cup of coffee every three months. As my granny used to say, you get what you pay for!
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on 25/01/2019, Scott supposed :
Why pay for something you can get for free, that (normally) works well?
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Nick Odell submitted this idea :
Thanks, but no mention in there about any issues with reader80..
Not a problem, I have swapped over to news.eternal. I was using reader80 originally to get around Talktalk blocking the usual ng ports.
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I question your latter premise. There are regular complaints about ES on this group and elsewhere. There is also the money value of time. I would rather pay 10 Euros than waste any of my time dealing with unreliable services.
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I see my ES account is set to use news.eternal-september.org port 119
Seems to be working without difficulty here via NTL/VM as my ISP
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And this from the man who wants to repair chipboard? lol
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Good point, Mr. The difference is that the chipboard is part of a kitchen installation where dismantling and replacement would be difficult to justify or I suspect to argue in law and the work involved is remedial.
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yes I thought as much but the contrast appealed to my (odd) sense of humour!
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No offence taken at all. That's why I credited it as a 'good point'.
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I had problems a few days ago. I was using, do perhaps to some difficulties some years back, an IP address. Now set to news.eternal-september.org and that is fine other than one or two posts got mangled into the wrong thread.
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Nearly any time I spend on newsgroups is a waste of time - it is a low priority activity for interest and amusement. If it's not working today I'll play with something else and look again tomorrow.
If paid-for services never went wrong, whatever they be, there wouldn't be any need for Ombudsmen, Legislation and Complaints Departments. Free <> Bad (except in the case of Google where Free=Evil)
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If you are lucky. For me, Usenet is purely a recreational/displacement activity. On the rare occasions that there are problems with ES, I simply find something else to do. The real mystery is why anyone would want to use Google Groups, except as a last resort, when there are free news providers and news clients out there which don't mangle your formatting as GG does, and thread messages properly, which GG doesn't.
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Not sure what you mean, if you access the news service at ES in the normal way its still going fine, if they want to retire old hardware, that is up to them. Brian
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Why would any isp block a usenet port? I'd have thought that was rather counter productive if they want people to use their services. We are supposed to have an open access internet here in Europe. Net neutrality and all of that. Brian
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Nothing to do with it being free, you are barking up the wrong tree there. Brian
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Brian Gaff was thinking very hard :
Rumour had it that they had it in mind, that usenet consumed a lot of their bandwidth. It seemed they throttled the pipe drastically, to the point it became unusable via the normal ports - complaints were ignored. Port 80 wasn't restricted so much so I used reader80 quite successfully.
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Because the one that only costs 10 Euro per year is vastly more reliable.
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These reasons may fall into your "last resort" category:
1 An ISP, employer or institutional network blocking the customary ports. 2 Using a public access, borrowed, or old device where you can't install software more capable than a web browser, or indeed any software. 3 A quick and dirty read-only check for new postings on a second screen while composing a new post. (Seeing posts in time order rather than threaded is almost helpful in this usage.)That said, I agree that GG is a pain for anything other than the shortest post, especially in the mobile (as opposed to desktop) versions.
As a workaround, I request the desktop site, hit Reply in GG, copy quoted text to an external editor and do everything there, before pasting the result back into GG to post. It can be painful and error prone but it works, mostly