I see electrical jobs for electricians often as for "IEE 16th Edition
wiring regulations". Does that mean there is some course that
qualifies someone to "have" that? Or is that what CGLI 2360 parts I &
II is intented to cover? If so why specify the 16th Ed separately?
Although all approved electricians will have passed their C&G, not all
will keep their qualifications up to date. Indeed, there are many
electricians who spend their entire working life doing mechanical
engineering (i.e. tray, trunking, conduit, drilling holes, making stuff
out of Unistrut, mounting panels on the wall and pulling cables). They
will not get involved in design or specification or testing and often
will not do much termination either. Other electricians will concentrate
more on the technical aspects of electrical engineering and, for
example, may not have installed a single length of steel conduit or
metre of pyro since the day they finished college.
Obviously as the IEE wiring regs get amended, electricians need to go on
refresher courses and get a certifiacte to demonstrate that they are up
to speed with the latest regulations. Employers who need all-round
electricians who can design, erect and test need to make sure their
electricians have passed the "16th Edition course". Colleges will soon
be offering "17th edition courses" and many electricians will be sent on
these courses by their employer or (if self employed) will have to fork
out the cash themselves.
Actually it's come down a little, they were quoting the full £65 when I
placed my order. But compared to the 16th, yes, twice the price. But
this one's more harmonised and there is quite a lot more of it - didn't
you download the public draft?
Doubtless there'll be a new set of Guidance Notes, OSG, EGBR and
commentary to buy eventually - probably 200 quid for a full set.
I'm assuming it will be bound (limp cover) but now you mention it the
Amazon site doesn't say. We do know the cover will be red though :-)
I did... and freed it from its DRM encumbrances...
Not sure there was enough there to justify the 50% price rise though...
I find my electronic version more useful than the paper ones anyway,
since half the time you know roughly what you are looking for and just
can't seem to find it!
Thought we had red not so long ago?
On 15 Jan 2008 23:33:57 GMT, email@example.com (Andrew
The reason I started this thread is that I was toying with the idea
(not toying any more), of maybe doing some part-time domestic
electrical work. As I am totally out of date (and well aware of it
thanks), having done a 5 year electrical apprenticeship in the late
70's. It was an industrial elec/electronic apprenticship and was
mainly 3ph industrial wiring/switchgear/motor controller and some
substation work. I did do some domestic work, wiring houses/ring main
stuff etc - but not a lot.
So... now with time on my hands I naively thought I'd like to do the
occasional job (additional sockets/lights you-name-it) and see the
industry is now (it seems to me) very tightly regulated.
Understandable I suppose, especially from a safety point of view and
even though I'm getting on I do still take a pride in my work. Clearly
I have a lot of revision to do to be able to ensure compliance. Hence
my OP. Basically gawd know how I could get from here to um, there.
The CG course I did all those years ago (5 years day release) is of
course history now. Although from the bits n pieces I see and read
there is much unchanged. Maybe no-one told the electrons about all
these new rules :-)
Anyway I'm, rambling (yawn), so as a followup, what would you chaps
well versed and up to date in these things advise? I'm ready for the
abuse and **ck off and things like that - but this group does seem
largely above that kind thing. I ask in hope anyway. I only really
want to do it for a) interest, b) keep active - I'm pretty fit still
c) earn some extra money.
Is it still possible to setup as a part-time self-employed
electrician? I thought a dodge way to do this work may be to try and
get enpolyed by a company who are themselves certified and avoid me
having to re-qualify. But I don't like the sound of that and don't
want the involvement either. OTOH to pay for all the certification
and to have to sit a 1/2 year course is not possible for me. Seems the
option for such electricians isn't there any more? A pity really.
Taking on board your wants and don't wants, I would suggest finding a one
man qualified electrician who needs a mate every now and then and who might
then certify any private work you did for a percentage (assuming you get on
OK). Otherwise you have identified the only two options - lots of work to
get the correct status or join a company. Sorry!