Electric vehicles

[charles]

It would be very easy to bypass teh2car meter" by plugging into a socket on the house supply. Unless a special plug is fitted to the car's connector and no other is available.

[Robin]

You don't need a separate meter as such if you have a charging point which communicates with the meter. Legislation in 2018 gave the government power to require all charging points to have "smart functionality". They propose to do so for all new home charging points by 2025. Early days though and there are unsurprisingly concerns about the cost.

[nightjar]

On 22/04/2021 17:40, Chris Hogg wrote: ...

The problem is that an electric car does not have to be charged from a dedicated and separately metered supply. You can plug it into any 13A socket and it will charge, albeit slowly. Thus any solution has to allow for that possibility.

[Andy Burns]

At the moment, pretty well all electric cars communicate with the charger* using just some pulses and a diode, but there is the option to use a full homeplug (data over mains wiring) type connection and there's a zigbee energy profile for wireless communication between smartmeter and car.

[*] not really the charger, but it's what everyone calls the thing on the wall.

[Chris Hogg]

Not an insurmountable problem, though. As Charles suggested, simply fit a special plug on the car's connector. AIUI there are several types of plug/socket combination in use anyway. Just ensure that none will fit a standard 3-pin 13A socket.

[Andy Burns]

Enterprising geezers in shady corners of pubs will ask if you want to buy an adapter lead

[Tim+]

Making all existing ?granny charger? leads illegal and trying to police it would be insurmountable in my opinion.

Tim

[invalid unparseable]

But doesn't stop you charging the car from the normal power points to avoid the higher cost of charging from the metered car charger.

[invalid unparseable]

All that would do is create a market for adapters.

[charles]

to the owner they are outgoings.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Right, and how easy to simply plug the while house or selected rings into the car charger circuit using a handy adapter cable.

And switch off the 'domestic supply'

Unlike diesel, you cant put red dye in the electrons...

[charles]

but it's different with green dye, ;-)

[Robin]

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"rates" on property? They were codified as a universal charge in the Poor Relief Act of 1601 (although I accept not a tax on ownership per se as also payable by tenants)

[Marland]

Going a bit OT any post on electric cars used to attract comment from Harry who could never resist telling us how his Solar Panels covered the running cost while boasting he run a Rolls as a pleasure vehicle on his pensioners WFA . He doesn?t seem to be around anymore, Covid Victim?

GH

[SH]

IIRC, he had recieved a medical diagnosis that was not good news....... and he did say on this very newsgroup.