Earthing metal switches

As part of the hall decorating I've replaced 3 of those bloody awful Georgian Brass (effect) light switches with nice white plastic ones.

In all three cases the earth was connected to the back box, but no link to the face plate.

Am I right in assuming that just isn't good enough? Shouldn't a link wire to the face be added?

Mind you, this was probably done by the same bloke who installed 2 x wall lights wired to power points with the cables going diagonally.

Reply to
The Medway Handyman
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Plastic switches don't need earthing apart from the metal fixing screws, just earth the back box and then you are OK.

Reply to
Corporal Jones

Regs state that there must be a wired connection between back box and face plate even plastic ones to ensure that the exposed screw heads are earthed. Wether you connect the incoming CPC to the face plate or box is debatable, to the box is probably easier as you then only have one wire to the face plate.

Reply to
Dave Liquorice

The question was about the old metal ones @-)

Reply to
The Medway Handyman

Not quite. If there is one fixed screw lug on the back box, then there is no need for the fly lead. BS1363 is the relevant document.

Reply to
A.Lee

So what reg is this and which plastic light switch face plates have an earth terminal?

Reply to
ARW

I'd say so - in the same way as you'd run the earth to a socket terminal, not the back box.

Could it be the wiring pre-dated the metal plate switches? So whoever fitted them didn't add the earth wire?

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

I've certainly still got one switch with a metal part on my loft light. No earth since it pre-dates earths in lighting circuits.

Reply to
charles

If the backbox is metal, and it has at least one fixed lug, then it is in theory allowable to rely on the screws. If it has a proper earth terminal on the switch though, it would be good practice to run a fly lead to it from the box connection.

Also worth checking the switch itself - some are double insulated / Class II and hence do not require earthing.

Reply to
John Rumm

heads

We are refering to metal face plates. B-)

Reply to
Dave Liquorice

I take it then that the wall boxes were not metal? Surely the screws earthed it. Brian

Reply to
Brian Gaff

Now that is the logical answer.

Reply to
ARW

:-)

Reply to
ARW

Does BS1363 cover lightswitches?

Reply to
ARW

no - that's BS 7671 (aka Wiring Regs)

Reply to
charles

They were metal, but I thought it would be safer not to rely on just the screws.

Reply to
The Medway Handyman

The switch in my loft is all metal MK about 40 years old, but it is earthed.

Reply to
PeterC

I'd not either since I've seen some pretty corroded ones on older installations. I'd add a wire link between the two - as I also do with sockets.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

"charles" wrote

My whole house had those orrible tacky brass metal light switches, as well as brass plated light fittings in every room except the shower room, where there was one of those evil looking UFO heater lights, positioned nicely so it could almost warm you up whilst in the shower, as it partly overhung the top of the cubicle!!!

And of course i found out the entire lighting circuit (only one for the whole dormer bungalow) was wired in that early '70's 0.75mm wire with no earth, even the heater light in the shower room was on non earthed .75mm cable.

When i replaced the floor upstairs (standard 12mm chipboard!!! it was crumbling and my foot had gone through it in a few places) i found the earth wires for the sockets all went around the junction boxes and were twisted together, it was machine twisted by the looks, a practice i thought died out before the war.

Reply to
Gazz

12? I am reluctant using that for a shelf!

I have seen places wired in the late 50s with a similar arrangement - rubber insulated twin, and separate multi strand galvanised steel earth.

Reply to
John Rumm

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