[Cycling] Time Trials + 20 limits = cyclist apoplexy

Feb 08, 2024 Last reply: 2 years ago 27 Replies
“Can’t wait for speed limits at the next F1 race in Vegas”: Cyclists and motorists baffled by new “April Fools” 20mph time trial rules

THU, FEB 08, 2024 10:47



So, it appears that yesterday’s story on Cycling Time Trials’ reaction to the increasingly widespread implementation of 20mph speed limits in built-up areas – which includes forcing participants to slow to the required 20mph during those particular sections – has elicited quite the reaction online.



For those who missed it – CTT, the governing body for that classically British, self-loathing discipline of racing your bike solo against nothing but a clock, this week issued new guidance advising those taking part in its time trials to adhere to new 20mph speed limits, and any other rule of the road, following the default implementation of these reduced zones in Wales, as well as other parts of England, last year.



CTT’s guidance also stipulated that any course with a lengthy 20mph section should not be used if a viable alternative is available, due to concerns over safety for participants and other road users, along with the risk of causing “public outrage” which, CTT says, could put the future of time trialling in Britain in jeopardy.



And how did the internet react to this new safety-oriented, anti-“public outrage” measure? By checking the calendar, apparently.



This is either a joke, or the world really has gone mad. Next, rugby players must wear bubble wrap onesies,” said Joe.



“This rubbish is contagious! Time to come to our senses!!” exclaimed Paul, representing the rather odd, sparsely populated central part of the Venn diagram of cyclists and those opposed to reduced speed limits.
“Emailed dropped into my inbox last night. I found the position hilarious. Granted it makes sense but just don’t run TTs on 20mph roads and all good,” said an amused cycling lawyer Rory McCarron.
“Why? There is no speed limit for bicycles on Britain's roads,” Adabadang wrote on Twitter, summing up the general attitude of the non-TTing cyclist.

Pointing out the difficulty of enforcing these measures, S*it Cycling Shots wrote: “Marshalls with speed guns in every village? Good luck enforcing this one!”



Others noted the irony of forcing cyclists, during a race, to adhere to a speed limit apparently, ahem, often ignored by other road users.



“Maybe the weekend before the event they should do a speed check on cars in any 20 limit they pass through. Max speed for riders is the highest recorded by a car,” said Stuart.
“Tell drivers to stick to it then you have a deal,” agreed Sebastian, with Dan describing the measure as “kowtowing to the anti-cycling mob”.
“Can’t wait for speed limits at the next F1 race in Vegas,” wrote the Entitled Cyclist, while Eamonn said: “Schrodinger’s Cyclist. Going too fast while simultaneously going too slow and delaying the all-important drivers.”

On the more extreme end of the reaction spectrum, one Facebook user, Shaun, however, reckons time trialling shouldn’t even take place on a road, never mind a 20mph section.



“If you want to TT, get a road closure or do it on a track. Sport shouldn't take place on the public highway. I'm a cyclist by the way,” says ‘cyclist’ Shaun.

Some, meanwhile, used the guidance to pitch their own, groundbreaking vision for the future of time trialling in the UK.



“They should do the whole route on 20mph roads and disqualify anyone who is even a tiny bit over 20mph average,” said cat-owning cyclist Travis (and Sigrid, I suppose), while Phil described the new world of time trialling as an “acceleration test”.
“Or a time trial in the truest sense of the term. Getting from A to B as close to an allotted time as possible,” said Farrell.

Now, that is a time trial I could get behind…



[This article, and other ‘news’, at the link below]
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But F1 is raced on a track. Cycle time trials take place on 'public roads'. Apples to Oranges again.

Try telling that to all the Bexiteers and climate change deniers.

Tim

As in Monaco (and as used to be the case in Birmingham) the motor race in Las Vegas takes place on public roads.

Don#t they just respond when their opponents post on those subjects?

but, the roads are closed to the public at the time of therace.

Don't I f****ng know it.

12 hours barricaded in our home one Sunday in 2018 when the "velo" went past the end of the road. 50_+ miles of *public* road given over to a private ("velo" were a for profit company) company to make money from without a single person being consulted. The only positive being that Birmingham Council had to clear away the uncollected rubbish from the ongoing bin strike so residents caught on and put all their waste out.

The next year they tried the same stunt again, and up and down the course locals put nails & glass.

Then 2020 and "velo" went bust. Thank goodness.

And the F1 cars have to avoid all the other public cars and bicycles on the same roads at the same time.

Gosh, weren;t you lucky. This village had the Olympic Cycle race, First a trial the year before and then 10 years of "Ride London". Weddings had to be resheduled, ambulances couldn't get to patients, care homes isolated both for staff & visitors, etc. Wew still have the cyclists - but only in comparativedly small groups.

I used to think that the call for horse riders to have personal airbags was a hoax, but apparently these do exist, triggered by a short lanyard attached to the saddle. Brian

I can imagine that they may help prevent spinal injuries for horse-riders who ride across country, jumping hedges etc - eg hunting horses.

Maybe one day we'll see all horse-racing jockeys required to wear airbags, especially for jump racing such as the Grand National ;-)

NY snipped-for-privacy@privacy.net wrote

Not just those, horses are very flighty animals and plenty get thrown when the horse gets startled and when the horse bolts.

And plenty of riders get injured when the horse falls on them, but its hard to see that the lanyard approach would work in that situation.

Brian Gaff snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote

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Motorbikes can have similar, so I doubt they're a hoax ...

There are even airbags for people on foot, but mainly intended to protect those that are unsteady on their feet. Worn like a belt (or a jacket), if it detects the movement of falling over, it inflates, including a hood that pops up and over the head (some only protect the hips and coccyx)

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Does doing time trials on a public road constitute "racing [against your previous times] on the public highway"? Ah, I forgot: cyclists think that any HC rule which is inconvenient to them can be ignored...

I wish the Highway Code would be strengthened so every relevant rule that applies to motor vehicles also applied to bicycles: speed limits, one-way streets, overtaking on the left, traffic lights, occupied zebra crossings. Yes, motorists don't always adhere to those rules, but when they don't, their registration number means that they stand a fair chance of being prosecuted.

I am probably fairly unusual that I cycle as if I were a human-powered car with visible number-plates, in terms of the laws that I adhere to.

I am very much opposed to races, whether car or bicycle, on public roads. Sure, they are closed for the race, but my point is that they shouldn't be closed: they are there for the public to use, not (even for a few hours) for the exclusive use of racers.

And not all bicycle races close roads. I got stuck behind a bicycle race as I was going home and they went so slowly up a 1:4 hill that my car wanted to go faster than them in first gear. (*) Once I realised that, I stopped and waited till they had all reached the top, so I could go up at a sensible speed which did not need me to slip my clutch. Even on flat sections, they took up the whole width of the road, with a car preceding them and one following to block traffic and shepherd it to stop. That race was probably illegal. When I complained to the organiser, I had an apologetic reply saying that everyone who lived along the route should have been notified, and "road closed" / "diversion" signs should have been posted. I was not the first person to report that this had not been done. I imagine the marshals got a bollocking.

(*) Having seen Tour de Yorkshire races on TV, I was expecting this lot to go up at superhuman speeds like the TdY racers, but they weren't quite as fit.

Cycle racing on British roads are governed by law, specifically Cycle Racing on the Highways Regulations 1960. Cycling time trials also need police permission and involve individual riders, not a massed start. Organisers generally go to some trouble to ensure races are well signposted in advance to try and minimise any inconvenience. Be sure that any unauthorised races would involve a prompt Police response. Just try a little patience and understanding of a grassroots sport which has brought this country countless Olympic medals. Those athletes have to start somewhere

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