Condensing Boiler replacement for my conventional boiler

ISTR building regs bumps this up to 600mm minimum nowadays.

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Andrew Gabriel
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Still 300mm last time I looked

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John Stumbles

Depends if the manufacturers are operating a cartel covertly (and probably illegally) keeping prices up, or competing among each other to get people to buy their, rather than the other manufacturer's, boilers. If the latter then the prices should come down.

If you compare combis with heating-only boilers, for example, you can get a combi for not much more than an equivalent heating boiler even though it contains a lot more 'works' simply because there's a big, competitive, market in combis and not so much in heating boilers. Condensing boilers don't contain much more than non-condis so their present price premium is, I guess, because there isn't much demand: when that changes there's no reason the prices shouldn't come right down _sometime_ (how long I've no idea) post-April.

Of course I could be completely wrong, so I'd better put in an X-no-archive header and hope that no-one quotes this in an archived follow-up ;-)

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John Stumbles

That's not a problem specific to the Internet, it is a problem with life in general!

(one particular disadvantage with the internet however is some people hide behind false identities so you have no idea of the provenance of their advice)

You may see them rise at first as demand surges, and makers use it as an excuse for turning the profit screw a little. Over time they should fall as market forces kick in since they will have to take up the "low end" ground currently occupied by the cheap non condensers.

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John Rumm

You go by the makers instructions.

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Doctor Evil

What, like choosing the right oil for a car?

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John Rumm

Ah. Really?

Does this mean that with your latest incarnation that you've had a change of outlook and are starting to read manufacturer's instructions? John Guest would be really pleased to hear that....

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Andy Hall

Yep, always do. Look at the minimum API and go above it. You will find makers recommend a "minimum". You can always go over, and it is best to by using fully synthetics. Got it? I did write it slow because I know you can't read fast.

Nah! Best for to buy the cheapest oil from ASDA and put that in for 40,000 miles. This you should do. Yes, you should

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Doctor Evil

Even if they are no suitable for the engine huh? yup got it....

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John Rumm

You are slow. Again for you, now read it slowly...

"makers recommend a "minimum". You can always go over, and it is best to by using fully synthetics. " Hint....the API never states what the oil has to be made of.

There you are repeat that 14 times a day. Nah! just put in ADSA cheapo stuff in for 40,000 miles. You need to. You really do.

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Doctor Evil

No, in the case of this particular dimension it may not be overridden by the manufacturer. Check the BS (instead of spouting it ;-)

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John Stumbles

Corgi always say, go by what the makers say.

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Doctor Evil

No, read it again. That is what you need to do.

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Doctor Evil

Mr ".", alias Bertie, you are right. When are you going to get yours sorted? NHS can help.

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Doctor Evil

Ok. I ' ll type this slow to match your brain. Synthetic oils ain't suitable for many older engines - even those in excellent condition.

I'm surprised you don't know this given your talents at quoting websites.

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Dave Plowman (News)

The only ego here belongs to John, aka Adam, IMM, Dr Evil etc, who claims to be an expert in everything, but fails in every count when asked for even the most basic credentials, and makes schoolboy howlers regularly. A troll of the worst sort. Which is sad, given his pretty good knowledge of maker's websites and specs for some things. But makes it difficult to sort out the wheat from the chaff in his posts. Cry wolf, etc.

Plenty others give good, sound, advice.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Penrite certainly make 20-50 synthetic which 'may' be suitable for older engines, but what about the oil filter? Or are they just another 'one size fits all' you are so keen on? Then, of course, there are the materials used for seals on older engines. Or perhaps you're happy for your *very* expensive oil to end up on the floor?

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Dave Plowman (News)

In article , Doctor Evil writes

John, I am, and always have, been David at chapelhouse, slightly changed to trap spammers but very much identifiable, unlike you who doesn't have the courage of his convictions, do you sit with a silly grin on your face whilst posting under different aliases? my, what a jolly wheeze, its a bit sad when this is all the enjoyment you get out of life, don't you think?

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No you can't.

Note that this requirement isn't about condensing boilers. There is already a requirement to upgrade to fully pumped and controlled hot water cylinder heating when replacing the boiler and has been for some years. So even if you replace right now with a traditional boiler, it would be against building regulations to keep the gravity hot water primary circulation.

Christian.

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Christian McArdle

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