Computer monitors?

I'd say there is an ideal size. Assuming the monitor in a common position

- rather than some way off. I've had 24" for ages - and not really felt the need to go bigger. With smaller, I did, but had to wait until economical to do so.

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Dave Plowman (News
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Urgh, I can't imagine why you'd want 49" 3840x1080. I suppose it might be good for films, but that's about it.

A 40" 4K monitor (which is same horizontal res as above, double vertical res) works out the same pixel density as four 20" 1080p monitors. A 43" 4K as four 21.5" 1080p. That means you don't need any fancy pixel scaling settings, you can just use it as if it's four small monitors, without bezels, glued together.

4K panels are cheap now - a 4K TV is £250 at Argos these days. TVs aren't necessarily great as monitors for various reasons, but they're often 'good enough', especially for domestic use.

Theo

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Theo

It's worth looking at picture-in-picture capability. That provides you the ability to display multiple inputs if you want, and have one machine take over the display if you want. For example my 40" 4K panel can do up to 4 inputs shown at once.

In 1-way PiP the second input is scaled to a window in the top right of the screen, overlaying the main input. I use this quite a bit for eg setting up Raspberry Pis, where I'm not fussed by perfect image quality but just want to see what I'm typing.

Theo

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Theo

Good point, I had not thought of that.

Playing with Pi's and/or Arduino is one of the things I havn't quite got around to doing yet. But it's well worth thinking about future proofing.

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newshound

I have a 4K monitor with multiple inputs but haven't had the time to understand how to get it working on these yet.

Intention was to replicate what I have at this location, which is 22" main HD monitor in landscape and 15" second monitor in portrait.

This works well.

Haven't yet got to the stage where W10 will drive two virtual monitors from two outputs to the single screen.

Could partition a single screen but this gets compromised if you want a window to go full screen.

Cheers

Dave R

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David

Depends - what CPU (and therefore embedded Intel gfx) are you using?

Cheers - Jaimie

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Jaimie Vandenbergh

You mean 'maximise' to only go to half the screen, like it did on your two monitor setup?

There are Windows addons to do this, which would seem easier than lying to Windows that it has two monitors (and messy pixel scaling the monitor has to do).

Not tried it but apparently:

WIN+Right Arrow: Resize the window to half of the display and dock it to the right. WIN+Left Arrow: Resize the window to half of the display and dock it to the left.

Theo

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Theo

Just dragging a window so that the mouse hits the left or right edge of the screen should trigger a "drop if you want it to go half-screen". Possibly needs enabling, I've no idea what the defaults are.

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Cheers - Jaimie

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Jaimie Vandenbergh

Intel are generous, in that they're more likely to name Xres * Yres @ RefreshRate, so you can quickly figure it out.

Start at ark.intel.com and enter the CPU part number.

The HDMI one might be workable at 2560x1440, the DP one if the connector is available, is more useful. While the lower refresh rates are OK for movie playback, you want 60Hz operation for desktop usage. (85Hz is not necessary with LCDs. The LCD has "persistence" sufficient for the lower rate.)

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Max Resolution (HDMI 1.4) 4096 x 2304 @ 24Hz <=== not a useful spec -------------+ | Max Resolution (DP) 4096 x 2304 @ 60Hz <=== good for 4K (3840 × 2160) | | [Max Resolution (eDP - Integrated Flat Panel) 4096 x 2304 @ 60Hz <=== laptop? | |
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| | HDMI | 1.3?1.4b | | 2560 x 1440 75Hz That's why they tell you it is HDMI 1.4, to correct it... | 3840 x 2160 30Hz <-----------------------------------------------------------------+

Adapters are available, both passive and active ones, for converting from one standard to another. I have an HDMI to VGA and a DP to VGA adapter, as examples of (cheap) active ones. There are also some from-to combos which make (expensive) active ones. You're almost better off buying a video card. The low end of the video card market is no longer cheap, for items still under support...

Once Intel dips its paddle in the water with Xe graphics cards, perhaps the low end pricing will change.

Paul

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Paul

That's a brilliant resource but it can't find my Xeon E3 1245 V3 sadly.

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Jeff Gaines

co-incidentally that's what I have, so I know it's there

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Andy Burns

You have to get the ID in the right order...

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Jeff Gaines

But it doesn't tell you much about graphics capability ... without splitting too many fine hairs the E3-1245 v3 is basically an i7-4770 (non-K) but the differ on graphics ... the i7 has HD4600 max 3840x2160 but the E3 only has P3000 max 2560x1600.

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Andy Burns

Looks like someone was asleep at their desk at Intel.

The entry here might have been speculative.

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"Integrated graphics GPU Type: HD P4600"

That's my backup source if they're not visible on ark. That site isn't known for listing resolution support.

Paul

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Paul

Yup standard part of Win 10...

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in a free collection

MS Powertoys probably

It has its followers... personally I prefer multiple real desktops!

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John Rumm

I was going by this

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Looking again, that might not be for the E3 v3 Xeons, doesn't matter to me as I use an rx580 GPU with mine, neither the CPU or GPU are rocketships by today's standards but for non-gaming both still work well for me ...

I think my M/B has stopped receiving firmware updates, and the CPU has stopped getting microcode fixes, so they mitigated Spectre and left Fallout/Zombieload alone for those CPUs

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Andy Burns

The sticking point is the underlying panel technology for todays

4K TV's and monitors. Many seem to be VA or MVA, which ??don't have the best viewing angle compared to IPS.

I notice the Sony and LG are now selling 48 inch OLED TV's, which might make an interesting monitor.

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Andrew

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