Common property door lock keeps getting changed by one of the unit owners

No.

There is no contract.

No key is required to get back from the balcony.

Its known who it is, he claims it is his balcony. It isn't.

He just ignores those bills.

Wouldn?t stop him getting a locksmith to change the lock, again.

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543dsa
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It isn't criminal damage, the new lock works fine, just for him. The police will say that it is a civil matter and they are right about that.

It is known who it is. He claims it is his personal balcony.

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543dsa

He wants to have sole use of that balcony. It is adjacent to his flat.

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543dsa

They aren't inconvenienced when the lock gets changed after he has got it changed.

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543dsa

There is no lease, he is one of the owners of one of the flats.

and

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543dsa

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and you didn't think to tell us this earlier. So the conflict is one of own ership not of locks.

If confident of shared ownership the access could be made unlockable.

Bill payments can be enforced but only once he loses a court case.

NT

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tabbypurr

If its available to everyone why does it need a lock at all?

Perhaps the miscreant changes it himself, perhaps he/she is a member of this group, perhaps we have advised them how...

Mike

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Muddymike

One way is to put your lock in with screws that are designed to be easy to put in but will have to be drilled out. The unscrew faces having been chamfered so that a screwdriver will slip off. Makes replacing the lock considerably more expensive for whoever is doing it (but could be very inconvenient if the existing lock fails or was filled with glue by the disgruntled property "owner"). I think basically you need to sort it out in a face to face meeting with the offender once and for all.

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Martin Brown

you do not seem to be getting it, one owner is just getting a locksmith to change the complete lock so that he is the only one with a key.

the thing would be for the property management if they knew the person doing it to charge said owner, tennant or whatever for the cost of changing it back again and if they knew which locksmith did it, tell them not to.

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FMurtz

No. any lock smith could remove any lock and fit a new one. If you had a high security registered one, reputable locksmiths won't change them without authority but some would.

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FMurtz

There would be legal methods to stop the rogue owner from interfering with common property

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FMurtz

Already said, to keep non authorized people out.

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FMurtz

Charge him replacement costs and threaten legal action.

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FMurtz

The police usually deflect such matters on grounds of lack of evidence - i.e. that it was the tenant who caused the damage rather than - say - a visitor. Doesn't run if there's CCTV evidence.

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Robin

Easily undone or removed. the problem is not locks it is disputed ownership of the balcony.

The unscrew faces having been

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FMurtz

It's criminal damage if he damages the old lock; or theft if he removes it and throws it away.

You need to be sure he is wrong before taking any other action. Have you tried a solicitor's letter telling him he has no right to control access?

If he is wrong his claim is worth nothing. Genuine belief that I own someone else's house doesn't give me legal right to move in and change the locks.

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Robin

As I said in the original, so the general public can't use it.

No he doesn?t.

perhaps he/she is a member of

No, that hasn?t happened.

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543dsa

His locksmith would do that.

The unscrew faces having been

And just how do you propose to actually do that ?

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543dsa

But there is no way to make him pay that.

and if they knew which locksmith did it, tell

But he is free to use another given that it is a big city.

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543dsa

But if every time the errant person changed the lock, it got superglued within hours, and they had to go through the replacement process again and again, some clue might seep into their brain ...

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Andy Burns

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