Hello, I plan to have another combination boiler (a condensing type!!!) fitted to replace my existing chaffoteaux combi. Vaillant & Worcester seem to be the choice of 2 plumbers that have looked at the job. Does anyone have thoughts on how to select a maker for similar ouput boilers? Thanks
.I work for Worcester. Shhhh!!
If I am honest, the boilers are really good (and I don't get paid to say that!) - There are certain models that play up more than others, but we do test *every* boiler that goes out. I've seen it done.
Don't hear a lot about Vaillant tbh, more people complain to us about British Gas's service (and did you know most of their condensing boilers are worcesters?).
Either way I am jealous whatever you choose - I can't afford a Worcester lol, mind you I can't afford a whole new system to stick it on.
Thorn
petergh wrote:
Vaillant appear to test theirs too, some water ran out when I removed the pipe end caps of my Turbomax28 when I first took it out of the box.
Andy
Had a 28 CDI installed on Friday.
Very pleased with it so far, except Wifey is beginning to annoy by constantly dashing around and adjusting the TRVs all day.
And the plumber comes back tomorrow to initiate us into the mysteries of the programme buttons, we gave up. (We missed the bit where it says "Turn the gas off", I think :)) )
Same on my Ideal when I took the shipping plugs out of the pipes... don't know what you can read into that though.
Are there any jobs at the moment for engineers?
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Knowing that crap company, they probably dropped it in water by mistake.
The Glow Worm condensing boilers take some beating on quality design and price. I would go Glow Worm before Worcester..... and I like Worcester.
How is the Bosch takeover affecting the company? Is the design German? German components? Will the Worcester name be dropped is favour of just Bosch?
When I was at the last Interbuild there was a film running on the W-B stand showing this. The guy who was talking to us told us about when he was talking some installers on a factory tour. They got to the test rig and when the boiler was filled water came spraying out from somewhere. He said that he wished the floor would open up, but instead one of the group said "better here than when I've got it hung - I'll definitely be buying these in future".
My Glow-worm CXi combi is now two years old and has been first class. But the designer obviously never talked to a service engineer. A minor rearrangement of components would make the condensate trap removal a no tools job - instead it is a curse and graze knuckles job.
I'm 99.9% sure that all boiler manufacturers test their products before they are shipped.
sponix
Why not take a look at the FAQ below. It won't help you decide much between Worcester and Vaillant though.
Pretty much a true with any product/service scenario. Ironically, it's better to have a problem and show the customer your avbility to fix it than never to have had a problem and to bullshit that you never do.
Come on then, poke sticks lads!!
Yes they need engineers. Can't meet demand atm.
As for which ones are most problematic, well am guessing that no-one in my dept. has the savvy to use a Usenet group so I would say avoid Highflow 400s and CBi models (cast iron heat exchangers).
Let's hope I'm right about Usenet eh?
Thorn
Is that the Greenstar Highflow 440?
Surely it's not a cast iron clunker, is it?
I was in charge of a large computerised test facility. I had programs written to simulate realistic use, but times 10, and run these overnight to ensure the product did as it was supposed to do when delivered.
Each morning we would come in and look at the banks of monitors to see which were still running and asess why those aspect still not running dropped out.
One morning we went in and a bunch of fellas were in there. We didn't know who the hell they were. But we noticed thing were not right on the test and we started to shout at each other across the lab all the log details and what was stilling running and why some had dropped out, while drinking coffee at the same time in plastic cups and throwing the empty cups in bins and missing. Half of the fellas were more interested in us and what we were doing than the company man speaking to them. The bunch of fellas left. We found out they were a group from a big govmt dept who the company were highly competitively tendering, and they were being shown around, and how one large project worked. We thought they were an internal group being shown around, so didn't give a hoot.
We found out later that we got the contract and what swayed them, and they put this on paper, was the professionalism of the testing unit.
The Greenstar 440 has the aluminium Greenstar condensing heat exchanger. The non-condensing 400 unit is cast iron. Please buy the 400.
Yes, but this was a government department. What were you testing?
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