Can I chuck unused wheelie bins in a skip?

Jan 17, 2019 Last reply: 5 years ago 61 Replies

I gather that shredded paper generally avoids being recycled because it falls through a fine trommel screen at the start of the line, so shredded bottles would probably do the same.

One word, four letters, first letter "J".

Any help ?

michael adams

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Often that means working with machinery or even passing a test so the pick up and trailer with machines can be driven to the site, there will also be more H+S requirements to comply with and possibly involving basic exams to be allowed to use some weed killers.

All a bit much for some people yet they are more than capable of wielding a broom at their own pace.

Mechanisation is often a good thing but there is a dire shortage of simple jobs for simple people now. Things are always looked at in isolation , one department of a council will appear to be run better but the social service side gets the additional burden and over the full picture may be actually paying more.

GH

Our council (Nottinghamshire) tells us that shredded paper is OK in our recycling bins.

When I visited the sorting facility recently, we saw the trommel screen which removed all small "contamination" which then went straight to landfill. This would clearly pass any crosscut paper shreddings.

I queried this, and they said that I was correct, but they felt that it was psychologically better to encourage recycling.

Chris

In message <q1qf4m$62f$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, at 17:48:04 on Thu, 17 Jan

2019, michael adams snipped-for-privacy@ukonline.co.uk> remarked:

I think the situation is that bins must be provided free of charge, but the council can levy a delivery fee (and also say you can't pick up from the depot yourself).

Ours takes shredded paper in paper bags. A good, if expensive, solution.

I've an email.....

They've acknowledged my reporting of 'an abandoned bin' and an inspector is going to visit.

:rolls eyes:

You hear all sorts of rumours about what actually happens to the contents of recycling bins after it's carted away, the village rag has a semi-interesting article from someone who took the time to visit ...

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e.g. me being "helpful" and flattening plastic bottles and aluminium tins, turns out to be harmful. Black plastic is definitely not wanted even if it has a recycling triangle on it, etc.

[you probably want to shield your eyes from Mrs Santa over the page]

And another email that their investigation is complete.

I still have the bins.

Why oh why can't all these local authorities get together and agree on a common policy and stick to it? So much of the information in that article is completely contrary to what we are told in Lincolnshire which, in the main, agrees with the rules of the East London Waste Authority who used to collect our rubbish and recycling.

But there is still a lot of misinformation out there. All of Lincolnshire's recycling goes through the same process yet, in a recent radio interview, a councillor from Boston said that the hard plastic tops on milk bottles can't be recycled. We are told to remove the tops and place in the recycling seperately - contrary to the Braunstone directions - otherwise they have to be removed manually - but aside from the colour, the tops are made from the same HDPE as the bottle - I don't think I've seen a hard plastic top this century!

In message snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>, at 13:17:27 on Sat, 2 Feb

2019, Andy Burns snipped-for-privacy@andyburns.uk remarked:

And recycling centres differ in the way they process the waste, so the article in question doesn't necessarily shed any light on even neighbouring local authority processes. Let alone why different LAs have such differing ideas on what they can and can't accept.

I have known people who put collecting bags *just* for milk bottle tops, in workplace kitchens, on the grounds they think they're especially valuable as recycling material ...

In message snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org>, at

12:44:41 on Sun, 3 Feb 2019, Terry Casey snipped-for-privacy@example.invalid remarked:

Because they all have different recycling processes, especially if they ask for pre-sorted (or do kerb-sorting).

I've lived places that didn't take glass at all, for example, and said you should take it to a bottle bank. Where I live now they accept glass as a mixed recyclable, but have removed almost all the public bottle banks.

One thing that leapt out at me from the newspaper article was their attitude to TetraPaks, which I have always understood needed extra-special custom processing.

That's because decisions on the cost/benefit of recycling various things are taken locally.

He could of course simply be misinformed or out of date. Or was he talking about *hard* milk bottle tops, and not the softer ones you've seen?

The problem with drafting advice like that is

(a) you are hostage to the particular plastic used by local milk sellers; but (b) worse than that normally it's felt better to have advice to apply to *all* plastic bottles, because the public's attention span doesn't necessarily run to sorting their collection of plastic bottles first by former contents, before then deciding which ones to keep/remove the tops. (c) maybe (see b above) the public would also be expected to start off by sorting their milk bottles into ones with hard/soft tops?

In practice advice like this only works if you can persuade people to remove *all* bottle tops (and sort them yourself later), or introduce a process of the public keeping them all, and the processing plant automatically removing them.

In message snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net>, at 13:06:24 on Sun, 3 Feb

2019, Andy Burns snipped-for-privacy@andyburns.uk remarked:

Perhaps they've forgotten it was the tin-foil ones people collected for Blue Peter?

But I see people do collect the plastic ones as a way of funding guide dogs for the blind. 70,000 bin bags full for one dog, apparently.

After proving you had them of course...

Snip "counsel's opinion",

"Someone's nicked em guv, bloody kids, strong winds, pikeys etc etc"

Ultimately just how much time (& money) are 3 secondhand wheelie bins worth?

What to you are "facts" are going to be unprovable in the court that you appear keen to impress... & at what cost to the taxpayer? More or less than three wheelie bins worth?

An excellent point Brian, perhaps m'lud michael would care to consider the situation where, having had the first bin(s) stolen, the ones in question were purchased by the homeowner.

Shurely the purchaser would be entitled to do what they want with those bins?

York

If it doesn't already.

My your imagination is working hard today!

You seem keen to carefully snip & avoid any "real world" figures in your pipe dreamings...

Indeed.

What if the previous owners bought them & left them when they moved?

Arguing? Merely correcting your wafty assumptions m'lud...

No example I note... BICBA

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