Bendy (kerfed?) MDF skirting - any recommendation?
Jan 18, 2015 19 Replies
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David
Floor is down and the skirting comes next.
We have a bay window that is curved, so we need bendy skirting.
The last lot was constructed (not by me) in several parts, with vertical wood strips, ply bent over it, and beading around the top.
I would prefer just to use bendy MDF if I can find a reasonable local supplier.
6"/150mm with a simpler angle top bit - no fancy mouldings.
Also, has anyone had any issues using bendy skirting?
Cheers
Dave R
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Bob Minchin
I can't see that kerf cutting will help as the cuts will be visible at the top. I found this when looking for example products
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JimK
/I can't see that kerf cutting will help as the cuts will be visible at the top. /q
Filler?
Make your own skirting bendy with a circ saw?
Jim K
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Tim Watts
Or make a steam box and bend your own.
Not a silly suggestion BTW - my neighbour lashed up a simple steam box and uses it to great effect.
May be able to adapt a powerful enough wallpaper stripper or DIY with an old style kettle element and a small metal tank with a pipe leading to the steam box.
For this purpose, a bit of 110mm drain pipe should do the job - should survive a few steamings and is long and thin.
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Roger Mills
Assuming that you're going to paint it, a thin bead of decorators' caulk along the top will hide the cuts.
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David
I'm assuming that this requires real wood - and some trial and error to get the skirting board to just the right state of bendiness.
I'm also assuming that there is a "pro" way of solving the problem which doesn't take as much time.
Although I've always fancied trying steaming and bending :-)
Cheers
Dave R
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newshound
Only done it once but was surprisingly easy and effective. Standard wallpaper stripper and I happened to have a suitable length of cement/asbestos drainpipe but as others have said plastic pipe may work OK. I kept the pipe vertical to get nice uniform heating. Took about half an hour IIRC. It was the first (and, I think, the only) time my late father in law (who was a master builder and a very fine carpenter) said anything complimentary about my DIY efforts).
More effort to construct something suitable for 150 mm skirting of course.
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Tim Watts
Pro or Pro? This would the pro way in the old days - or one of them. The other is you tie your sapling down so they grow into a curve :) But I guess you'd like to do this job this year!
The "cook" time is fairy long - hours at least. You'd probably have to insulate such a long box too or the temperature at the far end will not climb.
Actually - thinking about that, you could probably form a steam tube out of plastic sheet if you could tape it in a way that survives 100C.
But back to reality - does MDF get more flexible when wet?
Could it be wetted, screwed into position and allowed to dry to take up the curve? I've heard this being done with plasterboard.
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David
I think MDF swells, warps and then falls apart when wet.
Sadly.
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David
Interesting - but at first look is expensive.
16-18 metres would cost (at around £20/metre) £360.
Wasn't expecting to pay that much. Bog standard MDF skirting comes in around £4/metre.
Cheers
Dave R
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polygonum
I think there is waterproof MDF. (Even if that only really means relatively water-resistant.)
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Tim Watts
Not as fast as you think - having our kitchen installed, we had temporary MDF for the worktops for a while and that got very wet around the sink. I was surprised but it did not fall apart.
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Weatherlawyer
Get a 3/4" board and cut your own.
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You need an electric saw, a dust mask and an hand plane. Get a sharpening s tone too. Car boot sales = cheap if they can be seen working.
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Saw blades are cheap enough to make sharpening them a waste of time. A good hand plane whips through mdf.
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John Rumm
Ought not be that long...
Remember Fred & George? See from about 6 mins in:
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Fred's steam box also looks pretty quick and easy to make
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David
Which brings us back to the question "how much will MDF bend?"
I'm off to the builders merchants tomorrow to investigate what they have in stock.
I need about a 3 metre length to go back 170mm - giving an arc with a chord of about 2.4 metres. Doesn't look a massive bend so I may experiment. The skirting around the ground floor is chamfered MDF (not moulded) and is about 145mm high by 20+ mm deep.
Cheers
Dave R
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John Rumm
Kerf bend it...
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(54 sec in)
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David
Scarily speeded up (I hope). That workshop is (slightly) larger and better equiped than mine.
I may have a play with some MDF off-cuts to see how bendy I can make them with and without kerfing.
I'll also have a try at finding ready made kerfed boards.
Cheers
Dave R
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John Rumm
Yup, 2 to 3 times I guess.
Quite likely, but then again all you need is a circular saw...
Without, not very.
Yup you can get that in both planks and sheets. You can also get ply in the same form.
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newshound
What a pleasure to watch a true craftsman at work! He makes it so simple.
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David
Thanks for all the input.
A new problem!
When we had all the work done a couple of years ago we fitted out all the new/upgraded areas with chamfered skirting which came in around 18mm thick and 144-148mm tall.
Nobody seems to stock this now, and the local builders merchants (Ridgeons, Travis Perkins) won't order in small quantities as it is a special production run apparently.
Now we have a 1930s semi and the skirtings we matched a couple of years back are original (complete with pencil notes on the back) so this size - roughly 6" tall - must be pretty common.
Any idea why skirtings now seem to be just under 100mm/4"?
I suppose I could hand cut a chamfer using a circular saw but I don't really trust myself to get this spot on, and I would probably have the same problems getting the right lengths - standard sheets are 8' * 4' (in old money) and I would like a single 4 metre run for one wall if possible. You can get these lengths in MDF skirting, just not in the size and profile I am looking for.
Now trawling t'Internet to see if I can order from there.
Cheers
Dave R
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