Belling Cookcentre 90 DFT electric grill problem.

May 13, 2026 Last reply: 1 month ago 31 Replies

I have a Belling (never again) Cookcentre 90 DFT, with a double eye-level grill. One grill element failed so a replacement was ordered, installed, and then after it had got to glowing red temperature, it tripped the electric (to the kitchen, on its own RCD or whatever they're called).



Swapped it with the other grill's element. The trip happened again, followed the element.



OK, one dud. Bought another. Same deal.



With both, they operated until they started to glow, then tripped, and each subsequent time tripped immediately.



No problem with the older element in either grill position.



Previous element replacements have also been fine.



Measured the resistance of the elements (old and new), all the same.



Anyone got any hints or tips? (Other than a new cooker. Soon, but not yet.)



Thanks in advance.


Water-vapour ingress during transport and storage?

Try baking them dry for a few hours.

Luckily he has an older one to provide heat, otherwise it would be like trying to find your glasses when you've lost your glasses.

That Belling range cooker has a top oven, main oven, and a double eye-level grill. The OP won’t be short of an oven to dry out the grill elements…

I always thought that eye-level grills were designed to spit hot fat directly at your eyeball. To be used only when wearing safety glasses. It's surprising that H&S allow them.

Stop buying those cheap sausages ?

I don't have an eye-level grille. Besides, I buy my sausages at a local farm, where they are all hand-made. And delicious.

Or even a grill?

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I've seen this claim lots of times. We've used an eye level grill on a daily basis for well over 50 years[1] and never come close to having this happen.

[1] Not the same grill for the whole time, you understand.

I trust they washed those hands first? Farms are mucky places.

What is this comestible known as a ‘sausage’?

Is it related to the item known as the Emulsified High-Fat Offal Tube[1]?

[1] Yes, Minister: 1984 Christmas Special

Cheap sausages probably have more rusk and less fat to spit :)

I've found that it's the more expensive sausages from supermarkets or direct from a butcher with more "meat" content that can be very variable in the amount of fat. In this household sausages and now cooked in the air fryer and one batch will produce nearly zero fat in the bottom of the basket while another batch a flood of fat will drip out :(

The NHS say this:

UK health guidelines recommend that the:

average man should eat no more than 30g of saturated fat a day average woman should eat no more than 20g of saturated fat a day.

From the NHS:

Saturated fat is found in:

butter, ghee, suet, lard, coconut oil and palm oil cakes biscuits fatty cuts of meat sausages bacon cured meats like salami, chorizo and pancetta cheese pastries, such as pies, quiches, sausage rolls and croissants cream, crème fraîche and sour cream ice cream coconut milk and coconut cream milkshakes chocolate and chocolate spreads.

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If you are tall, they spit fat at your t*ts instead :-)

Luckily for *me*, the grill is actually at nipple height.

I can always run a pot cloth over them.

Please don't refer to my wives as "cheap".

I make my own. Inherited a Kenwood kMix from my mother and it has the sausage making attachment. There is absolutely no comparison between home-made, and shop-bought. Not least because you can create whatever flavour combination you want.

You can imagine my glee when next door's gardener got a load of chickens and started sharing their eggs, too (I'm just bragging now).

That can help get an old element working again short term, but ought not be required for a new one. It would suggest it was defective from new.

Also once water has got into it, drying it out does not reallyfix the problem. It might allow it to run without tripping the RCD, but since some of the magnesium dioxide insulation will have been changed into magnesium hydroxide (it has been basically slaked with water at an elevated temperature), it will never bee the same again.

Magnesium Oxide is a very good electrical insulator, with high thermal conductivity, and a high density. Mg Hydroxide has much lower electrical resistance, is a poor thermal conductor, and is lower in density. So you get more leakage current to start with. The density change driven expansion causes additional cracks in the element casing, and the poorer thermal conductivity causes more localised heating - in turn more expansion, cracks, and water ingress. It is a downward spiral.

Seriously, who gives a f*ck at our time of life as to what the NHS recommends (this week) about diet? Give it a few years and it will all change.

I want to enjoy my food, not waste time worrying about how damaging it’s currently thought to be. Having had two parents who lived too long, I’ve no wish to follow their path.

Tim

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