Didn't actually have many of them - in the remainder 10%
The magazine corner of the library was the place to be ;-)
Owain
Didn't actually have many of them - in the remainder 10%
The magazine corner of the library was the place to be ;-)
Owain
Price-less as well?
Reading the parish magazine of course....
Amateurs the lot of you. Jones the Oil, Jones the Coal, Jones the Garage, Jones the Law, Evans the Baker, Evans the Council, Evans the Fish, Thomas the Library, Parry the School, Parry the Rail.
What's the problem?
Fortunately Mrs Fisher gives her name and marital status...
As this is usnet not everyone uses what could be a real name or gives their marital status. In the case of no apparent real name I'd use the nickname, in quotes. Unknown marital status of an apparent female with an apparent real name would be refered to as Ms .
What's more, they're my real given and family names. I can't see the point in hiding anything.
I'm happy to be called Mary among friends, Mrs Fisher isn't unacceptable. Darling, Mam, Grandam, Madame, Mistress, Auntie etc. are fine where appropriate and I respond to all of them in those circumstances. What I don't like is nurses calling me 'Sweetheart' and the like when I've been asked how I'd like to be addressed. It shows laziness.
Ms means Meaningless, both Miss and Mrs are shortened forms of Mistress. Pointless political ploys by early feminists have caused irritation in this house at least. If I have to reply to anyone using Ms Fisher I ask for my proper name or title to be used, if it's not their future correspondence will be ignored.
I apply the same to internet correspondence.
The other feminist move, for married women to keep their maiden name, is stupid. Instead of converting to a husband's name they're using another man's, their father's.
The only name we have which is unchangeable without difficulty is our given or baptismal name, the surname is a clan or family name, that's all.
Mary
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Not true - unless you decide where in history to stop - and how you define nationality..
Mary
It's not naff, it's sensible. My frying pans aren't electric but glass lids mean that I can see what's going on in the pan yet don't have splashing fat.
Mary
But I can see the point. 'Mr' in correspondence etc doesn't denote marital status. Mrs or Miss does. Hence emphasising the principle that a wife is a man's property.
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 10:17:45 -0000 someone who may be "Mary Fisher" wrote this:-
To get back to the original point, if someone called you Fisher on this newsgroup what would you think?
I think that the German solution is better - Fraulein up to a certain age and then Frau after that.
If it were to differentiate between child and adult, fair enough. But it discriminates between young and older - presumably for the titillation of men originally. Unless such a naming exists for males.
When I worked in Wiesbaden I used to amuse myself by referring to young males at work as "Herrlein" at least the women on the team saw the funny side of it.
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:39:35 +0000 (GMT) someone who may be "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote this:-
Whether one considers age or marital status a solution to this very minor "problem" is either the Ms approach, or to re-adopt Master (abbreviated to Ma perhaps) for young/unmarried persons of the male persuasion and reserve Mr for married/older ones.
It's impolite. I wouldn't reply.
I remember once calling (i.e. shouting to) our school caretaker across the playing field. He came up to me and told me off, he hadn't heard the "Mr" and explained that the rest of the staff thought it was OK to call non-teaching staff just by their surname. He felt that his job - and that of the boiler man and gardener - were just as important as theirs and should be given as much respect. So did I.
Mary
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Or just the name of the person being addressed. If I sign a letter 'Mary Fisher' I'm indicating that a title isn't necessary and I'm happy to be addressed as Mary. That's my choice and no-one should assume anything different.
'Ms' has become a lazy way of addressing ALL women, even when a title has been asked for.
As for 'Master', I can't see any problem with that and I've used it. It can add dignity to the feeling a youngster has for himself.
Whatever happened to 'Esq'?
Mary
Perhaps we should get back to the original point, which was about small-scale wind turbines.
Would you, as something of a supporter of such devices, care to comment upon the issue of the drop-off in power with decreasing windspeed?
'Esq' has probably become obsolescent - if not obsolete- by word processors and their associated mail-merge databases/ address books. However, only yesterday, I received a letter bearing a stick-on address label, sent to; - Mr & Mrs Brian Sharrock Esq. ! Somebody need a lesson in etiquette.
AFAIK, the suffix 'Esq' as an identifier for layers is a peculiarly USA usage.
But there are still some who type or even (horros!) hand-write letters and envelopes!
Indeed.
How did hens get into this?
I mean, there's thread drift and thread drift but this???
Mary
Dear Mr and Mrs Esq...?
I once worked for a company dealing with forestry investments. I would estimate that about half the sales database were titled, ranging from Rt Hons to Excellencies and Highnesses.
Oh, what fun we had.
Owain
And a lot of the rest media 'stars' I bet!
Mary
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