Avoiding airlocks in plastic pipes

Oct 12, 2026 Last reply: 9 hours ago 2 Replies
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I've been pondering running some central heating/cooling pipes in the loft. The general idea is an 'up and over' using flexible plastic pipe with no joins to avoid the risk of leaks. Pipe goes up from one room, runs horizontal in the loft, then bends down to another room. Pre-insulated pipe so no worries about losses or condensation - mostly 16mm but possibly some



32mm. Flexible plastic can get into spaces without access that would be very awkward to run copper. It's a pressurised system.

How do you deal with air in the pipes in this scenario? Normally you'd have a bleed valve at the top of the system where the air collects - either manual or automatic. But that would make a joint in the pipe. Is there a way to force the air out of the system somehow?



I'm thinking that any system will need to be drained down from time to time and when refilled you need to get the air out. For these pipe sizes, will natural circulation pressure be enough to push it out? Would it work to have a port where eg suction could be applied? Or is this a complete no-no?



Also, is there a way to safely run thick pipes through joists without compromising structure? eg the 32mm pipes are 76mm od after insulation. Is it sufficient to have some kind of steel to go around the penetration? I'm seeing things like:

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I wonder how bad an idea this is?



Thanks Theo


Direct experience (although with copper, not plastic

I gave up and installed a proper washing machines style tap at the highest point. turning off EVERHY radiator bar one and using max pump speed MOSTLY cleared the airlock, except for the time it didn't..

My advice. Try without, but be prepared to have to install a bleed of some sort

I would second that

I have a built in "up and over" bit of copper on my system and .... its a royal PITA

Try it without but .. in the end, the whole thing is dependent on the maximum grunt available from the pump.

When I restart the system after the seasonal flush and anti corrosion treatment (completed last week) I find it sometimes helps if you just run the pump for a minute or two and then stop it for about 10 - 15 seconds until all the gurgling noises have stopped and then restart it.

Rinse and repeat

It eventually gets the idea but I usually need to go round to every radiator in the house with the bleed key at least twice before it settles down

Its not a 5 minutes job :-\

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