Another tip of the day.

I always thought it unreasonable when, as a kid, I was told off for saying anything about anyone - called "passing remarks". Always said in innocence/ignorance, whereas when adults say things about other adults it's more knowing and malicious/gossipy.

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Max Demian
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There are occasional men with high voices. One of my teachers had an unbroken voice (and a very thick beard!). I never heard him sing though. I think it takes a bit more than a high voice.

Andy

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Vir Campestris

Indeed, it seems a strange kind of quasi-theological bigotry that says babies born with testicles must be socialised as men and babies born with ovaries must be socialised as women.[1] The immediate question that strikes me is: "Why?". Either because god says so or an appeal to some non-existent "natural law" I suppose? Perhaps what is really the problem is the vast differences in dress, behaviour and other life choices that are required of men and women, for no very sound or fundamental reasons. If men or women could behave or dress in any way they preferred then the problem of which gender to choose would perhaps not be so severe.

[1] It is ironic that various inborn errors of development make babies with testicles that are anatomically apparently female and babies with ovaries that are anatomically apparently male. The bigots got this wrong until at least the nineteenth century - how embarrassing for them!
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Roger Hayter

that would be a bit of a mouthful.

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John Rumm

Not keen for a shag then?

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John Rumm

Ditto. never saw a single black or coloured face in the South Wales town where I grew up, except for the blokes who operated the coal hoists down at the docks. They ended their working day really black. Ditto the blokes whose job it was to scrape the clinker out of the steam engines at the end of the day.

The only 'real' brown and black people were down the area of Cardiff known as tiger bay. Most people never ventured down there, even though it was just a mile or so from the the main shopping area.

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Andrew

Nice of you to offer. Please don't post the vid!

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Richard

Birth place of a certain Shirley Bassey ...

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Terry Casey

Reminds me of a story from my GEC days, where a bean counter had been trying to save cash by making it harder for people to use the phone for non business calls. As a result he got a block put on the numbers for things like the local squash courts.

Needless to say it did not take the engineers long to work out that the internal phone system (being one of the largest private networks in the country - since it joined all the bits of the empire together), allowed calls to be routed through multiple exchanges at other sites if needs be. Hence you could dial your way around any blocks just by finding a site which allowed free access to unrestricted outside lines.

This came to the attention of the bean counter (lots of people dialling unreasonably long phone numbers), and he brought it to the attention of the line manager, and demanded to know "what are you going to do about it?". The bean counter was rather taken aback when the manager said he would go and congratulate his staff, since it demonstrated exactly the kind of lateral thinking and problem solving ability he wanted from them.

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John Rumm

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