Alternatives to the discontinued Screwfix Turbo Ultra stainless screws

Fischer Power-Fast Stainless Steel Woodscrews?

Have to admit, for my purposes so far, I have drilled a pilot hole so they go exactly where I want them, so do not know what they are like to drive without.

Toolstation do a load of Spax SS screws but I wouldn't call them cheap.

No, they're not [cheap] are they! ... and I don't think they have the 'cutter' tip.

They look like a possibility, thanks, but they are quite expensive.

I've just discovered that screwfix.de have quite a lot of Turbo Ultra available still, at knock-down prices. Maybe I should take a short trip to Germany!

checked your local B&Q for clearance stock?

Some do.

Yes - price is definitely an issue but I couldn't remember Turbo Ultra prices to make a comparison. Other stockists might be less expensive - there is considerable variation of the prices for the yellow ones.

Enjoy your trip!

I used a lot of these when I built a shed. Into softwood, 4 mm pilot hole, had several screwless heads - they do seem to be rather weak. Another snag is that when removing an Ultra it brings out a lot of wood. Due to this I tried to pick up the same thread when replacing the screw - not easy, due to the irregular shape - and then had to be careful tightening it as the thread left in the wood was weakened. Pity that these aren't stainless:

Reisser do stainless screws called Retinox, but they're not twinthread, probably not cheap either.

You know, I very much doubt if Screw thingy make their own screws, they probably buy them in from some company that supplies them by the zillion. Often they can pop up elsewhere under different brands. II used to find this a lot when I could see. The sheds stopped something but it was then available from another distributor. No idea how this gets to be, suspect its all to do with costs and mark up. Brian

I (OP) have some of them, sort of middling prices and they're OK but not as good as Turbo Ultra in many ways. For a given diameter they appear very thin and have no sort of rifling/cutting point.

Yes, but I've never seen any screws that look at all like Screwfix's Turbo Gold or Turbo Ultra, they're immediately recognisable. One does wonder if Screwfix are big enough to demand sort of trade mark rights over these designs.

I always prefer to pre-drill a hole. It saves the wood plitting

Trade marks have nothing to do with the size of the operation except in the sense that the bigger operations can afford the cost of trademarks.

And I think he really means copyright, anyway.

I'd expect registered design

Trouble with that line is the copyright is free. You just have to claim it.

He actually means a registered design which isnt necessarily that cheap.

Yes, that's it. Thought it wasn't quite right, but I knew it wasn't a trademark!

I did say "sort of trade mark", what I meant was that Screwfix are maybe big enough to demand that suppliers don't supply the same screws to other sellers.

As I said I've certainly never seen anything that looks like either TurboGold or TurboUltra screws except the real thing.