100W bulbs. What was all the fuss?

[Archibald]

They're back in force it seems.

Who paid for that fiasco of discounted CFL's

Anyone been sacked or voted out yet?

AB

[Tim Watts]

On Saturday 09 November 2013 21:08 Archibald wrote in uk.d-i-y:

I was starting to notice that - our farmers supply shop is full of them.

[Bob Eager]

Our loft is full of them!

[Huge]

Spare bedroom ...

(That's where the box of spare bulbs is.)

[Andrew Gabriel]

They never went away, except in the supermarkets which went into a voluntary agreement with the government.

You did - that's what the green tax on fuel bills is for.

[alan]

You did. You paid an extra 10% of your gas and electricity bill.

[Brian Gaff]

I think its consumer power. There are some investigations over some energy companies charging for bulbs given to them to be given away i heard the other day.

Not all cfls are created equal either. Some of the ones I got were pretty good according to friends, come on bright and fast, while others were decidedly slow to brighten and looked like gas lighting in the colour temperature output. Brian

[Brian Gaff]

I wonder how long the new ones last? I was talking to somebody the other day who claims that two apparently identical clear 100w bulbs are in fact different. One is much yellower than the other one, and he is now waiting to see which pops first. it should presumably be the brighter of the two? Is there a standard for filament bulbs or can manufacturers do what they like by trading off life and brightness? Brian

[tim......]

not in a box at 5 for a quid though :-(

tim

[Huge]

So all the Government's posturing has achieved is to force the price up.

[tim......]

Indirectly yes

what it achieved was to force their sale through sales channels with higher overheads

tim

[Andrew Gabriel]

All the ones I saw were Philips Genie ones, low power (none equivalent to 100W lamp), and all extremely short life - strangely much shorter than if you went into a store and bought a Philips Genie.

If you subscribe to conspiracy theories, you might even image the energy companies deliberately distributed a load of duff low quality CFLs to make people think they're really terrible.

[Michael Chare]

Are they rough service ones, which you have always been able to get?

[Huge]

Or just bought the cheapest ones they could lay their hands on ...

[Rob]

Ah! this brings to mind their slogan some years back "simply years ahead" AFAIC they were so far ahead they were on another planet !

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Meanwhile, you can now get 6W led screw-in bulbs from Ikea that are a good replacemment for 60W filament bulbs (IMO). Instant-on, good enough colour for me, just need some bayonet fitting ones and I'll never buy a CFL again.

Andrew

[news]

I read that IKEA don't stock any bayonet bulbs as the UK is the only European country that uses them. I have noticed in several stores that the range of ES bulbs is often greater than BC. However I have recently discovered these adaptors

(Other cheaper versions are available on e-bay)

[Andrew Gabriel]

IKEA don't stock any B22d LEDs, but they do plenty of B22d CFLs. UK isn't the only European country that uses BC, but IKEA don't sell any B22d fittings.

Strictly speaking, they're not legal, because a) they have to be covered by a British Standard or EN, and b) that can't happen because they're unpolarised so can't ensure the screw isn't the live terminal.

Also, the extra length may stop a lamp fitting an enclosure, or may move the light source into a position where the light isn't corrected guided into the right direction.

[news]

On 11/11/2013 19:22, Andrew Gabriel wrote: .

Whilst I have no reason to doubt what you say above they are (at least for the moment) also available from major UK companies such as

not just the Amazon marketplace. The "further information" on the Farnell website claims "Bayonet Cap to Edison Screw lampholder adaptor with brass inserts. Manufactured to BS 5733."

Not having access to it I have no idea what BS 5733 covers, it may just be the shade of black, for all I know.

All true and if applicable in the installation in question these devices would not be suitable.

[charles]

You could always Google for it. Specification for General Requirements for Electrical Accessories. So, I doubt if its just the colour.