UL does a heck of a lot more than only electrical things any more.
Specific to this discussion from the UL website:
UL can evaluate gas-fired or solid-fuel fired hearth product
appliances to the applicable U.S., Canadian and global requirements.
This includes factory-built fireplaces, fireplace stoves, room heaters,
pellet stoves and fireplace inserts. We can evaluate gas-only fired
units, solid-fuel units, or units that use a combination of gas and
other heat sources such as wood, coal or other solid-fuel. We also
evaluate outdoor gas or solid-fuel appliances such as fireplaces or log
To find that place where the rats don\'t race
and the phones don\'t ring at all.
The EPA is part of the US government, mostly curbing pollution. UL,
"Underighters Laboratories" is a private business that tests and
approves mostly electrical devices if they are safe. Many electrical
products are sold without the UL approval and this is perfectly legal.
EPA would be required by state law or local law and the local building
inspector would be the one looking for this.
Then UL stands for Underwriters Laboratories. An "underwriter" is an
insurance company. So UL inspects things for insurance companies. And if
there is a UL label, then the insurance company can be assured the product
will not cause a fire (if installed properly). And that there will probably
not be any claim from you for damages resulting from a fire.
Thus they can collect your monthly insurance premium and not have to pay
anything out! The insurance company is then happy!
Here are the requirements for Oregon (for example) about the EPA label...
But if you build a small fire in a large stove too often, your flu
pipe/chimney will not run hot enough and will build up creosote much
much faster creating a dangerous situation. A chimney fire just waiting
But in modern (double-wall) steel chimneys chimney fires are seldom
dangerous. (I have known firemen recommend them as the best way
to remove creosote from a chimney.) Points of danger are:
1 -- obsolete chimneys that do not meet current safety codes;
2 -- the release from the chimney-top of burning material that
may fall onto the roof, adjacent buildings, dry treetops etc.
Will this stove have double wall stove pipe?
As far as purposely creating a chimney fire, yes I did it all the time
up in PA. Every few days to a week, after it was good and hot I'd open
the door and the flames went up the flue and the very thin layer of
creosote was burnt off. After 2 years I had someone out to clean it and
he said it's about as clean as it will ever get. Oh, and I even burnt a
lot of pine wood scraps. Run them hot and they stay clean.
It's been a while since I've looked, but they used to sell kits for
turning a 55 gallon drum into a wood stove. Much lower cost than a
new stove. Is it the highest quality wood stove you can buy? Is it a
beautiful addition to your home? No - but might be a good way to test
the concept. You can line with firebrick to extend the life. The
large surface area of the drum actually does help with heat output and
efficiency. Put together right, it can be fairly airtight too. But,
can't say I have actually done it. -- H
Nope, that's not it. I am talking about a kit where you get the door,
legs, and chimney stub, and attach them yourself to your own drum.
For example, (no endorsement as to quality or price, just here's a
website with a picture that shows what I mean):
They still sell the kits, I think at Tractor Supply. I had a friend
with one out in a room off the garage where we hung out. They are
excellent for fast heat! And I was surprised at how long he used it
with the same 55 gallon drum. I wanted to put one in my garage for that
reason, it was FAST! I could do it, even legally, but if my garage
burnt down my insurance wouldn't pay.
A neat idea is a wood burning furnace that sits outside. This heats a water
jacket and then you pump the water to a heat exchanger in the office/shop.
Inside no soot, no bugs and you can stack the wood close to the furnace
instead of lugging it inside and lugging the ashes back out.
You might also look into a heat pump.
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