Toyota is still a good car. The defective part is made by CTS in Indiana. The other supplier in Japan does NOT have defective gas pedals. Why would you want an entire car made in America if it's like CTS parts. It was probably sabotage by American car companies to eliminate their competition. They can't stand it that Toyota is now bigger than GM.
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"the quacking duck gets shot"
Toyota has extended the recall to Europe and Asia.
He's quite useful, but I prefer to bring them home myself in my Toyota Matrix. We use his Honda CRV for pulling the trailer if we need extra cargo space.
For us, cars are just tools. If they're not useful, we don't buy 'em.
Cindy Hamilton
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Agreed. Never had a Scoobaru (although I hear good things about them) but I did the same thing with VW's for years. It'd take a lot to convince me that *either* Toyota or Ford is a better value than a high mileage used VW.
nate
Hahahahahaha! Good one!
I won't buy another Toyota. I won't forget the time I had to drive 60 miles to get their "special blend" of pink anti-freeze so I would not void the warranty. A gallon of anti-freeze cost me $20, $10 for gasoline, and 2 hours of my time. My new vehicle will be buying a vehicle from a manufacturer where I can use the traditional green-colored Prestone. I won't be buying *any* vehicle in the near future--money is tight right now.
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Someone, in this thread, wrote "Theft, however, is synonymous with socialism".
No proof; unless the writer was confusing the inefficiency and ineptness of certain (many?) forms of socialism (communism)?
Would also agree that poorly paid and low expectations of public servants in certain systems of governance, both autocratic and communistic increase the chances that they will accept bribes and other inducements.
And even in our relatively affluent societies we have all heard the, 'Building Inspector Bribed'', "Officials Persuaded to Issue Illegal Permit"and/or "Elected official treated to vacation at luxurious resort'" stories etc.
But what is more corrupt and implicit to theft then an industry lobbying (and sometimes paying off) governemnt officials to obtain advantages? Certain political systems being much more prone to it than others. Sometimes the decisions of those officials then being not to the benefit of the consumers/voters/citizens.
Not convinced that sticking a label on something and then saying it thus automatically involves theft is true.
Of course most Americans; especially those who have never lived/ travelled elsewhere, have no actual concept of what the words Socialism, Communism, Liberal, really mean!
Well, please find that post and reply there, where your post belongs.
I don't get it - what's funny about spending maybe $1-2K for a car that's more pleasant to drive, lasts longer, and gets better fuel mileage than a new Ford? I call it pretty darn spiffy, myself.
Only problem is that mid-late 80's era VWs seem to be hard to find, I could use another car, and an A1/A2 GTI or any Scirocco would fit the bill perfectly. I used to pick them up for $1K or less and then drive them until they either fell apart or I found something I liked better; can't seem to find 'em anymore. Last Scirocco I had had 240K miles when I sold it (at least, I think I may have repaired the odometer at least once) and compression tested good and ran like new.
nate
According to you Yanks, I live in a "socialist state"
Which is why much of Canadian aid is channeled through very efficient private organizations - matching funds to agencies like MCC (Mennonite Central ommittee) - one of the MOST efficient "charities" in the world..
I've lived in "African nations". The people are not hard to govern - the Governments are just incapable of governing.
Different than the US.
Or the axe.
The "traditional green prestone" is a dynasour. Hardly ANYBODY uses it any more as OEM fill.
About 2k - I work at home.
Geez, where do you live? I'm in the serious boonies and there's a Toyota dealer less than 10 miles from my house. There's also at least 2 auto parts stores within that same distance, and they have anti-freeze in many colors and types (just bought some). To base a decision on a major purchase such as a vehicle on what type of cheap consumables it uses seems quite short-sighted to me.
Please! Yanik isn't a Yank.
Yanik is blowing smoke about Government being inefficient at managing things. The most efficient healthcare system in the world is run by the U.S. government. Unfortunately, it is only available to a select group of people.
He never had to drive 60 miles to get antifreeze that wouldn't void his warranty, either. It's available at any auto parts store or oil change shop.
Which one is that? MCare is going broke, people have to buy supplemental policies to cover the gaping holes and the payment levels are so low that many doctors are refusing to take new Mcare patients. VA? Big problems outside the big medical center hospitals that are almost all run as teaching hospitals by medical schools. Maybe the Bureau of Indian affairs. Haven't heard much about them recently.
Good for him. They are still making cars and making a profit so evidently those employees and plants were not needed. If GM had done similar, they may be profitable too.
And they are making a profit despite the fact the UAW wouldn't give them the same breaks on wages and work rules that they gave to GM and Chrysler.
I agree. I won't buy from those who needed a bailout, using MY tax dollars during tough times.
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