I am being invaded by what I am told are carpenter ants.
They are similar in size to fire ants but do not bite.
What they do is to IRRITATE me by getting on my body, my counter tops, etc., etc.
Is there a product that I can mix with water so as to spray them?
If you have carpenter ants you have a bigger problem
than the ants irritating you. Carpenter ants destroy wood and
if they are inside your house, they are almost certainly
nesting inside the wood of your house. The destruction,
if left unchecked, is similar to termites.
Spraying them is unlikely to solve the problem. It will
only effect the ants you hit, not the nest. I've had success
with Terra liquid bait. The ants feed on it and take it
back to the nest, ultimately killing the whole nest. It comes
in little clear plastic tray like packages.
The other alternative is to call in a pro. They typically
spray a product into wall cavities after drilling holes and
also use a powder around the perimeter.
Keeping debis, vegetation, etc away from the wood of
the outside of the house also helps. As does making
sure you don't have the outside wet due to poor drainage,
leaves piling up, etc.
Similar, but not exactly the same. Carpenter ants don't actually EAT the
wood as termites do. They treat the wood like regular ants treat dirt: they
hollow it out to make nests - and carry the sawdust outside.
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C-ants typically run to and nest in the highest point in the house
(although there may be more than one nest) so a thorough application
to the entire structure according to label directions is required.
The thing to remember about ants is, just because you don't see them
doesn't mean they're not there.
The other thing to know is a half-assed job might stress a colony and
cause them to split. You won't see them for a while, then they'll
suddenly be back and more numerous.
On 8/9/2012 7:54 AM, firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
Spraying the ones you see ain't the answer as others said -- you need to
bait them and eliminate the colon[y|ies].
Amdro Ant Block is listed for carpenter ants and multiple other
species...Amdro Fire Ant bait is most excellent for them and others; we
don't have carpenter ants that I've ever seen out here so can't say
specifically but I'd give them a thumbs up on comparative basis...
That's really not true. Back when I did home repair for a living, I had
a guy call me about a leaky flat roof, which was the entire kitchen.
This was built as an addition from the main house. When I opened that
roof from the underside (drywall removed), that entire roof structure
was eaten away by the ants, and that made the center of the roof sag,
thus made the water problem worse. Ants fell like a heavy rainstorm.
It was the most disgusting job I ever did. We removed the entire roof,
only to find the walls were also full of ants. We demolished that whole
part of the house and rebuilt it from the foundation up, using all
treated lumber and made a gable roof rather than the flat one. The
owner had a professional exterminator come too, because as the thing was
being demolished, ants were running everywhere in the rest of the house.
The job was finished at a huge cost to the guy.
A year later he called me again. This time his bathroom ceramic tile
was falling off the walls. Well, upon removing a few tiles, I found the
drywall was all falling apart and after removing it, the walls were full
of carpenter ants. The entire bathroom was demolished from the inside,
the half of the wall studs had to be replaced, particularly on the
exterior wall, and around the shower. This meant replacing the siding
on the entire house, because the existing siding could not be matched.
The exterminators came again, and had to come on a regular basis after
Some years later I got a call from that guy. He had moved, and wanted
me to do a few small repairs at his new house. He said that the
neighboring homes were also infested by the old house, and the
exterminators were spraying all the houses in that area. He said he
sold the place and moved, after spending a fortune on the place for
repairs and the continued cost of exterminators. He said he moved
entirely because of that ant problem.
My carpenter ant invasion involved finding a bunch of little satellite
nests around the house and most were not really in a wet place.
One was in a plastic diskette caddy that was bone dry. One in the
coffee maker but not where the water goes and one in our bed. (10 on
the yuck factor scale)
We were chasing them for a month until one morning my wife went out to
get the paper and saw them swarming out of the mulch next to the
I mixed up a 5 gallon bucket of poison, drenched the whole bed and we
didn't see any more carpenter ants.
The mulch went out with the horticulture that weekend, No more mulch
Quite right. They won't destroy the house, but can do so much
structural damage that you will be forced to remove major parts of the
structure yourself. Happened to me a few years ago, and a 15' x 18'
addition to the family palace wound up in the Dumpster. Source for the
ants was a rather rotted old white maple and a substandard roofing job
on a near flat roof.
To be clear, the moisture that attracts the ants is what is destroying
your house, the ants are just a symptom.
I didn't have any wet wood and II still had the ants. After the ant
invasion I did a total remodel of that end of the house, down to
concrete and block. No sign of wet wood was found. My wet wood was the
mulch, right outside that wall,.
Here's a link with a lot of good information:
They can also be coming into your house from a tree or trees outside. If
so, you can usually figure that out by watching the ants and see what path
they are taking. I've done that and it works.
I also bought a product called Advance Granular Carpenter Ant Bait and it
worked perfectly for me every time (on different properties). I placed it
at the base of the tree that was the source of the problem and the carpenter
ants disappeared. I happen to live near the exterminating company that has
the above website and I went there in person and bought the stuff. It is
relatively expensive, but it was what I needed, so I got it.
Here's their link for buying the product online from them:
http://www.unexco.net/store/bscview.mv . But, read what the page says --
that it won't work if the source and cause of the problem is moisture. It
was the right product for me because the source of the problem was (each
time) a nest in a nearby tree.
Given what the website says, my guess is that there are other carpenter ant
bait products out there that would probably also work just as well and
probably cost a lot less. The concept is (according to them) is that
baiting works because it kills the nest without causing the ants to abandon
ship and form new nests.
I have no connection with this company and don't know them personally. I am
just providing this information in case it helps.
On 8/9/2012 8:54 AM, email@example.com wrote:
Okay, first of all carpenter ants are NOT similar in size to fire ants.
CAs are much larger. CAs nest in damaged/rotted wood, indoors or out,
and including old termite tunnels. Are you in warm climate with fire
ants? IF you have CA's, they aren't difficult to get rid of, as getting
rid of the dead wood has done it for me (in condo, after others had
dumped bags and bags of poison all over). We cleared away debris and
dead wood from landscaping, made repairs to damaged wood on building and
the ants were gone. CAs are pretty big, I'd guess about 1/3"....the
forage around dusk and are fairly easy to follow back to nest. If you
have rather ordinary small ants, try Terro or similar off-brand....most
hardware stores carry some version of it, and it is usually a small
bottle of just syrup and boric acid. Placed alongside trails, it
attracts ants fairly quickly and is taken back to the nest. Among the
pest fighting methods, include thorough cleaning of floors, cabinets,
sticky containers, pet food crumbs/bowls. If the problem is a new one,
and you are in a drought area (or unusually heavy rainfall), ants may
come indoors seeking moisture or having been driven from nests by
flooding. CA's also nest in trees, so a good idea to clear limbs
(especially dead or damaged) that might contact the roof.
Thank you. I was going to say the same thing. The only thing fire
ants & CA's have in common is the reddish brown color, otherwise they
are as different as day & night. Which makes me wonder what the OP
really has problems with.
I live rural and have cedar trees dying all over the place. Almost
every one has CA's nesting in the trunk. I'm wondering at what stage
they're invading the trees, causing the tree to die in order to have a
nesting site or moving in after it dies? The trees are definitely not
rotted as standing cedar rarely rots. especially not this many 6-10"
Hold the presses......there is a variety of CAs that is small. I did a
lot of research when I worked on correcting problems at our condo in
Florida. At the time, the info on U of Fla website was specific for
Florida CAs and those were not causing damage but were nesting in
already damaged structures and rotten or dead limbs outdoors. This link
has more info and includes a newer CA with limited occurrence in FL but
more in other southern states. Good idea for the OP to catch a few of
the ants and take them to local extension service or to find info about
ants in his locale. Most extension services have thorough info about
pests, including current methods of elimination. Here is the link again:
Fire ant: 2 mm to 6 mm
Carpenter ant: 6.4 mm to 25 mm
Identify _correctly_ first.
If you have carpenter ants, you must eliminate the source of
moisture, they go after wet or damp wood.
Nothing else will work.
You are right, but it is hard to convince people to look for rotted
wood. We had numerous spots around our condo, including palm trees. We
had very large, old hedges with dead limbs at the bottom where they had
been pruned....I poured some water with Dawn down the hollowed out wood
and CAs came pouring out, carrying their eggs/larva...interesting
critters. When they bite, they can hang on, but didn't get any of
those; only fire ant stings.
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