It appears they have cut all XP users off from even the old updates ... I
had to reinstall XP Pro in one of my laptops , and have been unable to get
the updates they used to have from before they dropped support . Is this yet
another move to force us to use their latest crap OS ? Is there anywhere
else these updates can be gotten ?
On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 3:25:57 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
My understanding of MSFTs product lifecycle is the same as yours.
When then stop supporting an OS, that doesn't mean that you can't
still get all the existing updates, right up to the final one.
It just means they are not issuing any further *new* updates.
I don't remember how updates worked in XP, but thought it was the
same as it is now, ie via an update manager that is part of Windows.
If you go into Windows, probably through control panel and tell it
to check for updates, what happens?
It's interesting that you have this problem. Last Fall I went through
hell with Win 7. I did a fresh restore to as shipped on a 4 year old
PC. It all went fine, then it started doing updates. That went fine
for a bit, until it put on a new version of the update manager. From
then on, it would not continue updating. It tried, but the wheels just
spun. Googling I found that a lot of people were having that problem,
with no resolution or help from MSFT. Some had the exact same thing,
ie started with a clean install, soon as it put on that new update
manager, no more updates. I finally figured out a solution. I searched
and found a later version of the update agent. So, I downloaded and
manually installed that and the it resumed doing the updates, all the
way to present.
On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:25:57 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
Take a class in not being an asshole and you'd know that
Microsoft ceased support for XP over a year ago. Doesn't
matter about updates, new or old, you're just setting
yourself up to be hacked. But as ill-mannered as you are
you probably deserve it.
You should talk about being an asshole ... M$ has said that the existing
updates will still be available , and they are thru a 3rd party . But they
are making it as difficult as they can to get them ... and I believe it's
because they want everybody to move over to their newest revenue generator ,
I choose not to update , too many chances for snooping into what's none of
their (or your) business with the new OS , not to mention that their new
business model is to "rent" applications .
The wife has a "new" laptop running W7 , which as far as I can tell is
just Vista - the lousiest OS they ever made - with a new wrapper .
On Wednesday, May 11, 2016 at 2:54:25 PM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Thank you. I work for a global company with 10 of thousands
employees and last year we were told to upgrade to W-7 or
you're on your own. No upgrades, no support, and no whining
if you don't upgrade and are hacked.
On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 10:37:16 AM UTC-4, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
If you're in that environment, then you should know that Terry
is right and you're wrong. When MSFT discontinues support the
policy always has been and still is, that it means they won't
be doing new updates, new fixes, answering questions, etc. All
the existing updates, right up to the last one, are still available
and that was all that Terry wants. He also confirmed this
because he's now downloading and installing them.
On Thursday, May 12, 2016 at 4:37:37 PM UTC-4, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
Sure I read what I wrote. Terry clearly wasn't asking for MSFT to
create and write new updates. He was asking for the updates to XP
that were issued in the past, which are still available, as they always
have been, even though support has ended. Proof of that is that he
found them, downloaded them and is now installing them. Go back to sleep.
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