I've been thinking of a water softener because I'm tired of scrubbing
lime off my sinks and tubs. I've read some of the suggestions about
using wax on faucets and was wondering if your happy with this
alternative? I have a shower filter that works great for taking out
chlorine but I don't think it does much for lime. I also have a heavy
duty counter top filter that attaches to the faucet for drinking
I have heard some people say that by softening the water you take out
minerals that your body needs. Then another site I was reading says
that most of those minerals you get from regular food and you would
need to drink a bathtub full of water to get your requirements so it
doesn't matter anyway.
So what do you think? I was looking at a cheap whirlpool model and the
reviews seem to be better on those than the boss menards sells.
You have to take into account other things. Water hardness, proper
sizing of the softener, etc. Even potential damage to appliances
(water heater/dishwasher/clothes washer, etc.) from minerals.
A "cheap" unit is not the answer, regardless of the reviews. How much
is "cheap for the unit you reviewed?
A call to your water utility may answer the hardness issues or find
them on the 'net for your location. This site is run by a former
poster here and has great information.
Not only great information, but great service at a fraction of the price.
Bought a unit from Gary last year. What a guy! A bit abrasive attitude, but
ya gotta figure he deals with a lot of people who are looking to pick his
brain, and he may not get anything in return.
He beat my local lumber yard on quality & price. In fact, lumber yard was
almost double the price since they had to "order" what I wanted.
Well, sad news. I was reading in Gary's forums. I knew Clack was shutting
down internet sales, and it is the valve Gary recommended.
Gary has RETIRED! Good for Gary! He posted in part "The bottom line is that
after 14 yrs online and 24 yrs in the business, I, actually WE are
seriously enjoying no phone calls, not answering emails and posts all over
Looks like no need to recommend Gary anymore. Still I am very pleased I
bought from him.
Hope this link works.
I love my water softener (Rain Soft). We don't have any of the scaling
problem we used to get in our old house. We don't have to drain out water
heater, coffee machine stays clean, and showers stay cleaner,. Down side is,
if you drink a lot of water you need to be careful about the sodium intake.
They are not recommended for people with high blood pressure. You can use
potassium but it's way more expensive than salt.
If you get one installed be sure to get separate lines for your yard (or
pool if you have one) because you don't want to put all that salt in your
yard because it builds up over time. Plus, I got a under the sink water
filter that takes the salt out of our drinking water (don't for get the ice
machine, soft water doesn't make very good ice). As a side note: If getting
seperate lines is too expensive, you can shut your ws off while watering the
I think you're probably right about the nutritional aspect but I think that
is determined by how much water you drink. My father-in-law is a chemist and
he says soft-water can actually deplete you of minerals. I just ignore him
Confused? Of course. A water softener removes calcium and magnesium ions
in exchange for sodium ions. This happens on the surface of a substance
called an ionexchanger inside the "softener". This process is reversible,
and every once in a while you have to regenerate the ionexchanger. That
happens by adding a "brine" solution to the softener "machine". This is a
concentrated salt (sodium chloride) solution. After the inoexchanger is
regenrated, the excess salt has to be removed. Usually this is done by
letting the water flow through to a waste collection point. If you let
that stream into your uard, you should have your head examined. It should
go into the municipal sewer system, where it does not really do anything
good, but it isn't all that bad either. Once "rinsed" sufficiently, the
softener is ready for normal use.
Our town government recommends water softeners and that means a lot because
they require a lot of water to work and flush down to the sewer. Our water
is 25 hardness.
Don't get one form a big box store. They are built with poor quality resins.
If you do get a softener I recommend one from Eco Water direct. They can be
programmed to your needs. A good water softener should last 20 to 25 years.
Big box store types last 7 maybe. You can rent them but I'd avoid culligan
rentals. They are know for overpricing and hard selling and have been
bankrupted a few times. At least EcoWater is Berkshire Hathaway. there
are better models than Ecowater, like kinetico but you pay.
Yes the minerals you need are depleted fro the water but you can make this
up with vitamins!! new water softeners add about 40 to 80 mg of salt to
you daily intake. Don't ever water your plants or lawn with softener water.
It's a waste and it's nutrient deficient from the plant. Softened water
allow your washing machine, dishwasher and shower soaps to all clean better.
The unit I have is this
it has a built in charcoal filter like a Brita system as well.
Yeah I have pictures of lake mead in a national Geographic issue from a
couple of months ago. pretty freaky! And a sign of a bad bad drought.
Must be scary for Las Vegas?
There is a town about 5 or 6 miles west of us called Limehouse (Ontario
Canada) that has a number of wells testing 70 grains of hardness.
Our town Georgetown gets all it's water from groundwater sources. 2 of the 7
wells are about 20 hardness. the remaining 5 are 25.
There has been a drought since I moved here 15 years ago. The lake
level has dropped 120 feet in that time. New homes cannot have turf
lawns in the front yard. We get a rebate for removing lawn turf and
changing to a desert landscape. Some old homesteads that were flooded
when the damn went in can now be seen.
The water utility is putting in a "Third Straw" intake pipe down
another 600 feet, below current pipes.
Video with story link:
At 70 grains, I guess you have to strain that water through your
I have used "softened" water for twenty years on my house plants and
have had NO problems whatsoever. I use a commercial liquid fertilizer
and my African violets thrive, my hoya thrives and even my cacti do
Before the use of an iron remover and softener, I couldn't see the
bottom of the bath tub as the iron content was so evident. Now it is
clear and nearly iron free. My laundry whites are no longer dark brown
and the hose filters to the washer rarely accumulate much residue.
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