I am developing my basement that will have a kitchenette (1) , full
bath (2.5), a separate vanity only nook (1) and a wet bar (1), that is
five and a half sets of H+C water plumbing. I love the flex tube
water pipes (PEC?) for running the water lines. These tubes are
secured to the fixtures by a crimp ring that requires a special crimp
tool. The tool costs $60+ the last time I checked. Renting one for
the day is something like $20 and the clock is ticking on overtime. I
react poorly to this kind of stress. Instead of working faster I
My idea is to buy the tool first, take a week to do a proper plumbing
job, then return the tool for a refund. The ruse "free use" is
obvious and I am not too comfortable with it. What's your take on
this? The alternative is to use stainless steel hose rings. Will
this have enough holding strength to keep the tube+fixtures securely
Kitchenette, full bath, wet bar, etc. = $5-10k and you're concerned over
Have someone quote you a price for all the pipes including the tool, that
way you won't be so distressed.
Or sell the tool afterward.
I have to agree with James Cubby Culbertson. If you are going to go
that far to get the flex tubing without fittings on the ends, then buy
the tool, and sell it on ebay. Someone out there that does this work
for a living just might be looking for this tool and will look on ebay.
Also, if you are that into doing home projects, what is to say that you
won't have a use for this tool again in the future?
You sound like the kind of person that fakes insurance claims and tries
to pay less for contracted work for no real reason, go steal one, whats
the difference, maybe we will be lucky and you will get caught
Aside from the totally unethical part of returning a used tool and screwing
the next person who buys it, look at the economic part. You spend time and
money buying and returning the tool. You'll surely need it again in the
future. Do you intend to buy and return one every time you need it. If you
have a leak and you can't get another tool, and have to hire a plumber,
you're out more than $60. Don't be cheap ass, but the tool and keep it.
There are options that you haven't considered. Check on eBay or a local pawn
see if you can buy the tool used. It'll work just the same as one bought new,
and if you
don't need it afterward, you can sell it and recoup almost 100% of the cost,
necessity of returning the item and wasting the store's time and money.
Buying an item with the full intent of returning it after using it is just plain
unethical, and drives prices up for people who aren't trying to screw the system.
Why not use copper tubing? The only tool you need is a soldering torch
which you might already have or can buy new for around $10 or $12 and it is
a handy tool to have around the house for other things as well. Don't be a
cheapskate. If you need a tool, decide whether it is more beneficial for
you to rent it or buy it and then do it. Nevermind returning it under false
pretences after you have used it. I have customers that try tricks like
that with me, but they will need my services down the road when they have
problems with the product they have purchased and then they don't get the
services and are shocked to learn why.
It's not an idea of yours, it's a plan. You are looking for someone to
sign off on your bullshit and I'm not feeling it. It's selfishness at
it's best...Rent or buy the friggin tool. You will not find a PEX
crimper in the average store and good plumbing store will be on to
your crap. I guess you might also want a refund on the crimp rings you
hose during your freezing spell!
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."
If you're asking, then you know it's wrong. Buy the tool and use it, sell
it on ebay when you're done. 60 bucks ain't squat when you roll it on to
the cost of your project. I have recently spent about $800.00 on various
tools that I need for a large upcoming project. The investment in the right
tool for the job is peanuts compared to hiring the work done. And, yes, I
plan on keeping all the tools I bought and using them for years to come.
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